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December 21, 2016 at 9:30 am #11228
A. S. Peterson was definitely the perfect person to write [“From the Deeps of the Dragon King”], mixing whaling and his imagination to make dragon hunting totally believable.
If I were a dragon hunter… sounds kind of like Fiddler on the Roof. Whatever.
If I were a dragon hunter I would buy an iPhone 7 (I like photography), and a MacBook (I like writing and Apple products), and plain tickets for all of my friends to come to Thailand for a year (I like friends who speak English, since I don’t speak Thai super well yet), and I would buy everything having to do with Wingfeathers and Andrew Peterson that I could lay hands on (if you havn’t noticed from my previous posts, I have a small Wingfeather and Andrew Peterson obsession).
December 21, 2016 at 2:22 pm #11235
You, have a Wingfeather obsession? No not you too Elia. Yeah I believe everybody here has a slight interest in Mr. Peterson’s work.
But if I were a dragon hunter (yiv a div idivi yiv a div a div idiv idum(lame attempts at Tevye’s falala’s) I would definitely put money into Andrew’s work myself, although instead of just buying everything (which I would do) I would especially try to invest a lot in the Animated Series. So much so that I could own enough principal shares to change the pronunciation from Leelee to Leeli, and Neea to Nia. Sorry pet peeve of mine. I can never get over how differently he pronounces those names then how everyone in my family calls them (and no I’m not British or anything). But all the same I would like to get my family settled comfortably first, and set aside a fair chunk of money for any marriage that the good Lord might open up.
Lord who made the Lion and the Lamb, you decreed I should be what I am.
Would it spoil some vast eternal plan…?!
…If, I were a wealthy man!!!!!!
December 21, 2016 at 6:55 pm #11243
Ask my dad about Wingfeather obsessions…. I’ve been banned from reading the Wingfeather Saga until further notice. He thinks that four times in one year is alread too much. In my opinion it’s impossible to read to much Wingfeather Saga.
Oh wait, I’m aloud to read the short stories… I guess I’ll just read those over and over until I can read the Saga again. 🙂
Actually, I’m pretty busy with other stuff right now, so I probably wouldn’t want to read it again for another month or two.
December 21, 2016 at 8:48 pm #11246
If your reading it 4 times a year I’d say you’re going slowly. My sister’s read it 4 times in the last month. LOL. Anyway, yeah, busy time. Totally get it man. If you’re over there as a missionary kid in old Indochina or whatever, that make’s total sense. I’m just a Pastor’s kid over here in the states, and I’ve still got a padded out schedule for school, ministries, and chores. Hope you have a little rest before the new year. If you’re looking for books to read or authors to look into I recommend H.G. Wells and his big four books, or Alexandre Dumas’ Count of Monte Cristo to name a few.
Well, good wishes & blessings!
December 21, 2016 at 10:22 pm #11250
Thailand. I’ve read War of the Worlds three times, but one of them was when Dad read it to me when I was four, so I’m not sure if that one really counts.
And speaking of Thailand, we’ve been doing English lessons over here. The first week there were four kids. The next week there were seventeen. This week there were twenty six (and this is in our living room!). If current trends continue, we will need to buy a football stadium in a few months.
December 23, 2016 at 8:25 pm #11320
Nice man. It would’ve been awesome if my dad read War of the Worlds to me at that age. I had already read the Hobbit to myself by then so I guess it counterbalances. I was mainly bred on Tolkien, old fairy tales and myths, as well as Star Wars for most of my early childhood. Then came the novel realization that pretty much every classic I had ever heard of was free on something called a Kindle, and as such one was immediately procured for my future reading. And my taste in literature has just kind of spread from there.
Yeah, Thailand, sorry. I am a bit of a history buff, so it’s kind of awesome that you live in the only country south of China and north of the Isthmus of Kra that was uncolonized. Siam it was in those days though. It must be pretty awesome and at the same time pretty sad over there. But on the same note it’s pretty awesome and pretty sad here too. All places are the same in a way. So you teach English? Awesome! I’ve taken Latin since I was small, and have gotten a pretty good reading grip on the language, and I am also taking Hebrew (our family is kinda Jewish) which is fun. Thank heavens my mom and I finally agreed that Greek was not for me (no offense but blah what a pain). Hopefully at some point or another I will take a bit of German, since the myths of that culture probably influenced me the most out of all the European legends. Bye the Bye, what is Siamese like? I have never gotten the hang of any Asian alphabets (except for Hebrew and Arabic), and so by proxy have never really been able to advance further in my knowledge of those languages. Does Siamese have picture letters (letters for words) or just letters like in English? Does it have declensions and conjugations as in Romance languages? Or is it more like Germanic or Celtic? Or something different entirely? Love to hear back to you on that.
On a completely unrelated note, when did you get into the Wingfeather Saga? I got books 1-3 on my 11th Birthday and have been in love ever since. At what stage in the story did you get into it?
December 24, 2016 at 7:03 am #11321
Wait, you mean you read The Hobbit when you were four? I didn’t read it till I was nine, and then I read the Lord of the Rings a little less than a year later. My little brother read The Two Towers while I was reading the Return of the King (he’s four years younger than me).
The language is called Thai. I think it comes from Sanskrit It was really hard at first because it’s tonal and there are 76 letters. I can read and write now, though, and the tones don’t bother me any more.
My friend Emma recommended the Saga to me when we were still in the U.S. about year and a half ago. I had some leftover birthday money a few months later, so I got them. I read them in five days, so it’s kind of hard to pinpoint the place where I really got into, but it was probably around the beginning of North! Or Be Eaten.
December 25, 2016 at 9:28 am #11561
No, I read the Hobbit when I was 3. Granted I didn’t really understand a lot of it, but I got the gist of the story and what happened in every chapter. I taught myself how to read at a very young age, and since (as stated previously) one of the main things that I watched as a kid was LOTR, my dad decided to have a little experiment and gave the Hobbit to read. I finished it about a week and a half latter, and I think he was pretty shocked when I came and told him I was finished and that it was awesome!
I read LOTR when I was 5, and still didn’t really understand, but since I had the movies that time I was really able to get more out of it on the first reading. Then there was a long hiatus from then until I read Silmarillion, which is still the most fun for me to read. (Yes, my reading abilities are a bit inhuman & I fully apologize.)
Well if there are only 76 letters in Thai I don’t know how anyone could be daunted by such a task. LOL. Dude, it’s totally awesome that you’ve already gotten to the reading and writing stage. That really is the stem of everything else. Keep it up! It’s really interesting how you say the language is all tonal. Perhaps that way they could write accents into their literature?
Yeah, the beginning of N!OBE was what really drew me into the story. Don’t get me wrong, I laughed all the way through the OTEOTDSOD (one day, when this stuff gets popular, there is going to have to be a meme about that abbreviation), but just the same. But when Nugget (spoilers) died, I turned to my dog and said, “Well Manna, things just got real.” Yeah, N!OBE really was the kicker to get the series really going.
Bye the Bye, love that new Profile Pic!
December 25, 2016 at 9:35 am #11562
Thanks. I am enjoying the Kickstarter rewards.
December 28, 2016 at 11:05 pm #11610
Ok, boys, I’m interrupting your conversation to say a few random things.
First- I like you two. I’m glad we have a forum like this so I can “meet” you. I doubt that would have ever happened otherwise and even if it had, we might not have realized how much we would have in common since I’m probably old enough to be your mother. But we are kindred spirits nonetheless.
Second- This story. The dune references were brilliant. Moby Dick parallels were too. But I found this story had a somewhat disturbing effect on me which I do not fully understand and will have to spend more time thinking about. I loved it and hated it at the same time, and I suspect it was hitting some of those “deeper things” that matter more than just a surface reading of the story can explain. Something in me resonating with something in that story, perhaps? If I get it figured out, maybe I will write my own post about it eventually.
Third- Discussion of Languages? Where is Madame Sidler? This will interest her greatly. I find languages fascinating but am not as good at learning them as you two seem to be. I took German in high school and have forgotten the vast majority of what I learned. I took Koine Greek (as in, Biblical, not modern) in college and LOVED it, even though the worst grade I got in college was in Greek. It wasn’t easy, but it was fascinating. I’m now attempting to learn Hebrew. I’ve tried before from a book and failed. This time I’m trying from a book and occasional online tutoring from a friend (Hi!) which is going better, although I am a very slow student because I stop working on it whenever I get too busy. At one point I also pretended that I was going to learn Ukrainian and have managed to remember a few words, mostly about coffee and things to make it drinkable. So obviously my interest in learning languages far outweighs my actual follow through, but I find all this very interesting.
Fourth- How in the world were either of you reading books that that difficult that young? Nevermind. I know it happens. My brother was like that. I may not have gotten to reading great books that quickly, but thankfully the point is to read them, not WHEN I read them. So I’m still working on reading all the great books of the world. I suspect it will take several lifetimes to finish. If you come across something that I really ought to read or that you want to discuss sometime, we could put that in the community discussion forum. I love discussing books with people. Obviously. That is why I am here.
December 28, 2016 at 11:17 pm #11612
You are up late!
Speaking of reading books at a young age and languages, I’ve been reading books in Thai and I feel like I am six again. I can understand quite a bit and usually get the gist of the story, but there’s a lot I don’t understand, too.
I am also very interested in fictional languages. Since I am learning Thai, I don’t have much time to work on Elvish, though… too bad. I hope Mr. Peterson will write more about Old Hollish. That would be fun.
December 28, 2016 at 11:42 pm #11614
I am up late. That is the advantage of being old enough to be your mother- no bedtime. There are some disadvantages though, like actually WANTING to go to sleep. 😛
I’m tempted to try to research Old Hollish myself, but I already have too many Wingfeather related projects that I am supposed to be working on but have not gotten finished. But if someone else wants to rediscover that language, I would love to learn it. I would even put it above Ukrainian on my list of “languages to learn.”
December 28, 2016 at 11:45 pm #11615
For the moment, though, I am going to leave Old Hollish alone and try to read some Hebrew before bed. I won’t understand what I’m reading because my vocabulary is REALLY limited. But I like sounding out the words and noticing the little bits that do make sense to me so far, even if I’m not sure I ought to count it as “reading” yet.
December 29, 2016 at 10:08 am #11618
I speak Hebrew!
December 29, 2016 at 10:09 am #11619
Or at least, I read it. Used to. I’m better at Greek right now, but… You know. It gets away from you when you’re a language buff.
December 29, 2016 at 10:23 am #11620
Yeah, I’ve been learning Hebrew for a couple years now, it’s an awesome language! Much better than Greek (apologies if you are Greek, both for the potential insult and for the difficulty you must have had in school). It is pretty awesome when you get to words you know, ain’t it? Keep up the good work!
December 29, 2016 at 2:47 am #11616
My dad pointed out that there are four different time zones in the U.S., and in one or two of them it wasn’t actually that late. What time zone are you in?
I don’t actually have a bedtime, but I get woken up at seven thirty or eight every morning, so I can’t stay up too late. I usually end up getting to bed around eleven.
December 29, 2016 at 3:24 pm #11623
I’m in central, so it was late but not outrageously late. I can be worse. But I try not to do that too often because it makes morning feel REALLY early.
December 29, 2016 at 10:56 am #11621
And you know German too Ms. Linda?!! Awesome! That is so cool! Since I know Latin really well and have a base for all the romance languages, German is one I really want to conquer! Reading the Volsung Saga in German would be so amazing! And someone else caught the Dune references! Nice to meet another Frank Herbert fan! “The Spice must flow!” Also I completely agree. If there wasn’t a forum like this, I wouldn’t have met you or Elia (you’re are one of the people that my sister would call “crash” as a complement). In real life (haha, real life) I am a very antisocial person. But even then, I would probably have been friends with you Ms. Linda and not with you Elia, since I just get along better with older people. Typically because adults understand what I am actually talking about.
And speaking of understanding things Elia, what do you recommend in terms of East Asian Literature that you’ve come across? I am always willing to be reading and learning new things about other cultures. My mother was a major in history and I teach her things left and right, and even include a few facepalms every now and then (of course they’re Star Trek compatible). But when it comes to countries like China and Siam all I can do is really say, “Yeah, fascinating places, they had virtually nothing to do with the outside world for over 2000 years, and are only now coming out on to the big stage. If you want to learn more, please ask a native of these land, because I do not know anything about these countries save for basic cultural points, religion, when & where Europe landed, and a Rogers & Hammerstein musical.”
Granted I know a lot more about Japanese history, but as a kid watching The Last Samurai (totally inaccurate, except for showing how amazing Ken Watanabe is) I was enthralled by Japanese culture. You’re probably wondering how I was watching something like that at such a young age, and sadly I don’t know either, but it was awesome and way above my normal storytelling tropes at the time. I mean killing off virtually your entire cast? Amazing! So I immediately began to research all of Japanese history and culture, and learned about their interactions with everyone, which is frankly a lot more fascinating then China’s (even if The Last Samurai wasn’t historically accurate).
So if you have any recommendations on literature of those countries, send them my way!
As for my current recommendation, get Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. Good Lord, what a book. If you’ve ever seen the Count of Monte Cristo with Jim Caviezel, this where he learns economics. And Holy Cow, communism get a clue. It makes it even more sad that this book was written nearly a century before Marx’s Communist Manifesto & it still rebuffs him on everypoint. As someone who’s read the Communist Manifesto, if someone told me that a modern day college student with his limited knowledge of logic & grammar had written it, I wouldn’t bat an eye. Mein Kampf (another one of those books) made better sense in the way it was worded and the problems it was attempting to address, which were in many ways really issues, even if the solutions to said problems were total garbage. But one could say with ease that at the very least an intelligent if severely incorrect & angry person wrote it, not so Communist Manifesto. Back on topic, if you want a great handle on how the free market system works, and how nations & people are sustained in it, the British Pound, as well as just a good read from an arguably better time, I recommend Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith.
December 29, 2016 at 8:04 pm #11627
Saga of the Volsungs is amazing! I read it this summer and I thought it was quite similar to Tolkien’s Silmarillion (or maybe I should say that The Silmarillion was similar to Saga of the Volsungs). Speaking of The Silmarillion, have you read Unfinished Tales?
As far as Thai literature goes, I haven’t actually read anything originally written in Thai, just translated stuff. Mostly Ender’s Game, The Giver, and The Hunger Games.
The Last Samuri was a book, too, right? I read a book called something like that a few years ago. I don’t remember it very well, but I liked it.
I have not read Mein Kampf, but I’ve been studying WWII this year. There’s been some pretty interesting stuff I’ve run across. Several of the more interesting ones were where two history books contradicted each other. Unfortunately, they were minor points, so I don’t think it be able to research them very well.
December 30, 2016 at 5:18 am #11635
Yes! Saga of the Volsungs! (Cue the Ride of the Valkyries maestro!) Yeah, total Silmarillion parallels to the Volsungs, but remember Tolkien was making more nods to Germanic myths than to Roman stuff by far. I have not as of yet read Unfinished Tales. Mainly because I haven’t tried to read them since before I got into Silmarillion, and after that it seemed kinda pointless to the mind of a 9 year old why one needed to go and read the Unfinished ones as well. But yes now as a semi-responsible teenager I need to seriously get on that. And I call myself a Tolkien fan.
Shame you didn’t know any Thai literature, but seriously Ender’s Game? Must have been a seriously hard time bro. To be fair, however, I don’t know if the Last Samurai was a book or not, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
So you’re gonna be studying WW2 this year? Don’t worry pal it’s a breeze. Not a lot of complexity to it, other than Good Vs. Immediate Evil Vs. Evil I’m not Evil yet if you catch my drift. But seriously dude, if you don’t wanna read Mein Kampf you don’t really need to if you know anything about Nazism. It tells you what Hitler’s motivations are and how he proclaims he is gonna fix things. WW2 wasn’t as interesting to me as The Great War by a long shot. I watch my Captain America & you get the drift. As my family is kinda Jewish I grew up with the Holocaust stuff kinda being front and center all the time when we studied back then. Don’t get me wrong, that has to be remembered, but when it’s kinda all told to you as a kid, the entire war kinda loses its lustre. Which is a part of the reason why I enjoy the Great War.
But yeah dude, totally need to get on to Unfinished Tales. Volsungs for life (or death)!
December 30, 2016 at 7:10 am #11636
I like Ride of the Valkyries a lot. It was the soundtrack for this typing game I used to play, and after a while I got to where I would play the game just for the music.
I’m actually just about done with WWII. I did WWI and WWII this semester (I’ve been reading for several hours every day). WWI was defiantly a lot more complicated than WWII. After studying it, I think both sides were evil.
I just finished reading Night by Elie Wiesel and The Hiding Place by Corrie ten Boom. It’s quite a contrast: one went through the hollocaust and lost his faith, the other went through and gained much more faith.
Also I read a biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas that was really good. It was called Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy. My little brother started calling him Bonifer. Maybe there could be a biography of Bonifer Squoon, called Bonifer: King’s Advisor, Traitor, Spider.
And… oh yeah, there was a book called The Gathering Storm about how WWII started, and it was written by Winston Churchill. I thought it was very interesting.
That’s just a few of the books. There’s another stack about two or three feet high (if you count the Kindle books). And dad tells me he has over a hundred books that I could read for church history next semester. I don’t think I’m reading all of them, but still….
On a random note, we need a live action Wingfeather Saga movie with the screenplay by Andrew Peterson (unfortunately J.R.R. Tolkien can’t help with it), directed by Peter Jackson, and with music by Howard Shore. We could film part of it close to where I used to live in Alamogordo, N.M. There are some VERY stony mountains that are snowy during the winter. Oh, and we wouldn’t have to have any CGI for the bomnubles if we filmed it there.
December 30, 2016 at 12:13 pm #11641
Yeah, Ride of the Valkyries will eternally be one of my favorite classical pieces.
Both sides in WW1 were evil? Dude the way I look at the only people really evil in that war were Russia (in both stages, Royal & Communist) & the Ottomans. I totally think that Germany & Austria-Hungary get a bad wrap in that war. Their concerns were justified, even if some of them were unnecessary. Look at it this way. The six conspirators that killed the Archduke (4 were Serbs, 2 were Turks), were being funded by Russia to kill the Heir to Austria, one of Russia’s most hated & powerful enemies in the Balkans. Boom, Princip shot Ferdinand & his wife, & the heir to the oldest house in Europe, House Habsburg was killed.
Now take the Emperor Franz Joseph, his son & daughter-in-law were killed, making the heir to everything some distant cousin, Serbia is refusing to investigate the killing (Austrian Secret Service found 4 of the conspirators before the war began when the Serbian government refused to help), your son’s last acts were steps to peacefully annex Serbia. Then Russia immediately steps in & says that if Austria should attack Serbia, then it would help it out. If I was the Emperor I probably would have done the same thing, in that I would have annexed Serbia whether they liked it or not, and put Russia in a bind to back up it’s word, all the royal families in Europe now fully aware that the Romanov’s had blown away the Hapsburg heir, & let them decide what they would do.
I know I’m taking a while here but hear me out. There were 2 major alliances in Europe at the time. Exhibit A being the German Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, & the Kingdom of Italy; ruled by Houses Hohenzollern, Hapsburg and Savoy respectively. Exhibit B being the British Empire, the Russian Empire, & the Republic of France; ruled by House Hanover (technically House Windsor, but House Hanover none-the-less), House Romanov, & France being on it’s third republic. Now, here’s where we come to the mistakes & misunderstandings that were made.
Germany (rightly) came to Austria’s aid when it was attacked by the Russians. Now the Russians were seen as the biggest blustering bullies in Europe even back then (except they had nothing to back it up with, see the Russo-Japanese war). So when Russia called on France & England to help them out of the pickle they were in they both said no. A lot of people don’t know that but it’s true. However, this still being a time before countries were actively watching each others correspondence with more than just personal spies. So Germany & Austria didn’t know that Russia’s allies hadn’t accepted to help them. What’s more England refused to help France if Belgium wasn’t attacked as well.
Now here’s where we come in to German military tactics & history. If you haven’t heard of the Franco-Prussian war I don’t blame you, but go look it up. But in short the war only lasted a couple of months, when a highly equipped & trained German army beat a poorly lead & equipped French army (which was the only thing in between the Germans & Paris) to a pulp with ease, walked across the French fields, got to Paris & the war was in essence over.
Knowing that the French army was still in essentially the same shape, the Germans just thought they could preemptively do it again. Walk across the fields, fight a large battle, win it with relative ease, walk into Paris & that would be that, a treaty would be signed & there would be no Western front. A brilliant plan in theory. However, that involved moving through parts of Belgium to get to France in the way the assault was planned. They went through with it, but instead of being able to walk across & fight a land battle, the French dug trenches, & after a week the offensive came to a screeching halt.
Now I will agree that after Russia had their revolution the war should have been called off, the Romanov’s got theirs, when one looks at it in the since of what the Central powers were fighting for (really all four of the Central Powers had been concerned about Russia & were fighting against them & not against the rest of the Allies in theory). I am not saying that the commies killing off the whole royal family in the way they did was right, I am saying that reason for war was over. And one can fault both sides for keeping it going. But in the end, of the 10 major families that were in Europe before the war, only 5 remained. Houses Oldenburg (Scandinavia), Bourbon (Spain), & Orange-Nassau (Netherlands) were neutral & thus survived. House Hanover being England made it through, as did House Savoy, who switched sides in the middle of the war, when things were pretty much in the bag for the Central Powers after Russia toppled. Those sneaky Italians man. However, Houses Hohenzollern & Hapsburg were forced to abdicate (wrongfully in my opinion) as was House Ozman of the Ottomans. Both the Romanovs of Russia & the Bragzanas of Portugal were both overthrown by communists during the war. So as I see it, the Great War was really a tragedy, but a much more beautiful one than WW2, in which every man afterwards could say he was proud to fight for the country he fought for. It was the end of the medieval era that had started all the way back with the fall of the Western Roman empire, & it went out with a glorious bang.
Sorry, I ranted/put on my professor voice there. WW1 is my favorite war in history, since to me it really is the culmination & payoff for all those years of history. Yeah, I read Metaxes’ Bonhoeffer a few years back, & it was awesomely sad. I had known of the guy earlier, but that was an amazing read. Dad got that for him to read, & I pulled it right off the shelf & had it done in a school week.
As for church history, I am kinda the guy out in right field. I was raised in a traditional Baptist family, my dad being a preacher. You may be asking yourself, “wait, hasn’t he said he was Jewish just recently?” Patience young padawan. My family was a good church family, & we had typical Southern Baptist ideals, although, with all the myths & stories I was reading, I was (and to a degree still am) more sympathetic to Catholicism. But recently, my family has being reading the Bible, & following the Law & the Torah, & things of that sort. So yes, we are Christians (and baptists), but we are doing all the Jewish stuff. So my views on Church history are kinda out there. I have a lot of respect for both Catholic saints & Protestant writers, however at the same time I see that there was a lot of Anti-Semitic stuff & theological facepalms. So I am afraid I don’t think I would be in the best of positions to read stuff other than your Bible. That said, Bonhoeffer’s Cost of Discipleship is really deep, check it out. Geoffrey of Monmouth’s Ecclesiastical History of the English People is really good, as is The Rule of St. Benedict & the writings of St. Francis of Assisi are pretty top notch too. If you’re feeling adventurous, pick up a Siddur (Jewish prayerbook), just keep in mind that there is stuff that’s just as facepalm as in Catholicism.
As for a Wingfeather movie, that would be awesome! I do agree however, that the TV route is the better route to take for the preservation of story. Peter Jackson & Howard Shore would be good choices, although I would also enjoy Kenneth Branagh & Patrick Doyle (I do think that a Shakespearean guy taking on the Wingfeather Saga would be pretty awesome, considering that I think his Thor is easily one top 3 best Marvel movies). I personally think that here in the Appalacian Mountains would be a good place for the Green Hollows myself. But again, we could just make Aerwiar New Zealand. It could be done.
I personally think that the Places Beyond the Maps as a film would be the best place to go for a movie after the TV show. Anyway, I am getting ahead of myself. Sorry for my little rant there, great talking to ya Elia!
December 30, 2016 at 8:27 pm #11651
Wow. Maybe the librarian could move our gigantic conversation to another forum before we completely take over this one? Our comments have been getting lengthy….
Okay, as for WWI. From what I read, it seems that the war was already brewing. All of the countries were getting ready for a huge war for domination of Euorpe (with the exception of the neutral countries). It would seem to me that the assassination of Archduke was just an excuse to start the war that was already coming. I may be wrong, but that’s what it looked like.
A Baptist who follows the law and is sympathetic to Catholicism? Hmm. Maybe these two questions will help me understand a little better:
1. What do you think of Galatians, especially chapter three verse thirteen?
2. What do you think of Martin Luther?
Looking forward to talking with you more WhiteKnght Eleventy-one!
December 30, 2016 at 11:15 pm #11652
Dude Galatians is awesome! But you gotta remember, there are 2 different laws at work here (arguably 3), the law of blessing & the law of cursing. The law being addressed in 3:13 is the Law of Cursing (see Deut. 27 & 30 for more context). When one puts oneself under the Law, one is open to receive both the blessing of the Law with obedience, & the curses with disobedience. When Christ came, he fulfilled the Law to the T, “not a jot or tittle shall pass away” (Matt 5:17-20). His entire legitimacy as the Messiah was about being perfect according to the Law of his Father. When we believe in Christ we are redeemed from the penalties of sin, & gain eternal life, not the blessings that come from it. Observe just a few verses down, aw heck just read the whole chapter! The law isn’t contrary to the promises of God. Nor does it no longer matter when Jesus came, just because some thing is fulfilled doesn’t mean that it’s over. See Jeremiah 31:31, the New Covenant isn’t writing an entirely new set of rules, it is writing the old rules on our hearts so that we will observe them.
Sorry that took a while and I still feel like more detail. But as for Martin Luther, yeah, I think that the 95 theses were on the whole pretty solid, the Catholics even implemented a lot of his stuff after the Wars of Religion, which was fought by mainly German Gentiles over a Jewish Book that most of them had never read arguing about what some Italian guy said in claiming to be the mouth of Christ. Seriously it gets intense. But yeah, on the whole, I think Luther was solid until he started to get into the Anti-Semitic garbage. Now granted, I know why he got upset. He had made such huge steps away from Catholicism that he expect the Jews to come walking right into to the true faith because of it. But let’s just be honest, the Jesus that Luther was giving the Jews still wouldn’t have worked or fit. Heck, the guy that Luther was presenting as the Messiah was automatically disqualified as the Jewish Messiah (see Deut 15) because he was preaching in opposition to Moses (as Luther & the Catholics said that the law of Moses was evil & absolutely abolished by God). So while I get the reason why Luther got mad that still doesn’t give him the authority say what he said, because in many ways the Christ that was being presented to them was just as foreign to them as before.
About my being sympathetic to Catholicism let me say this. I am not one of those Protestants that thinks all Catholics are evil & that the Pope’s the Anti-Christ. That just doesn’t make sense from a prophetic & theological standpoint. Your average Catholic believes in Christ as the Son of God, & trusts in him for their salvation, & all he really knows of the Bible (or did for the last 2000 years I can’t speak for them know) was what came down from the pulpit. I can’t really blame him for not knowing something he had no way of knowing, & he believes in the Trinity & Christ, & so from the definitions set forth in Scripture I can’t really help but saying that I think your average Catholic is saved. I am not saying every Catholic is saved (like those weirdos that say Mary is part of the Godhead & all that nonsense), & I don’t agree that the Pope is the mouth of Christ by any stretch of the road. Many Popes were just plain bad & sinful, & in many ways I don’t agree with the one we have today. But just the same if I were to meet him I would still very likely tack on “your holiness” or some other similar thing. Not because my parents raised me to say that, or that my parents jump to the defense of Catholicism’s many plot holes, of which there are many. It’s just with all the literature I read, learning Latin since I was 5, & with all the stuff written by Catholics that I read (J.R.R. Tolkien for gosh sakes) I just am more sympathetic to them & what they believe than your average backwoods Baptist, of which I am a fine & proud member of raised in the swamps of Missouri & the floodplains of Kentucky.
I hope that answered some of your questions. Please understand that this is all coming from a Irish Anglo-Dutchman living in America (U.S.A.!) who was raised in a Greco-Roman/Norse-German Protestant Christian family in the South, who to my knowledge hasn’t a drop of actual Jewish in me.
Looking forward to talking with you more, Elia Tyson!
December 31, 2016 at 12:11 am #11653
Yes, I completely agree that Jesus fulfilled the law, and the law came from God and it is good. But we have the New Covenant now, which is infinitely better. Why would we want the law again? The Holy Spirit lives in us, so we don’t need lists of rules to follow. Can you explain more about what you mean by “two laws”?
Here’s a poem:
Run John run,
The law commands,
But gives us neither feet nor hands.
Better news the Gospel brings,
It bids us fly and gives us wings.
Yeah, Martin Luther’s anti-semetic stuff is bad. I mostly meant the 95 theses.
I also agree that there are many Catholic Christians (I know a few). There are so many of them that it’s hard to pin down what the majority believes. Let’s let the Catholic thing drop and focus more on the law and Galatians (and Hebrews), it’s more interesting and profitable.
Cool that you know where your ancestors came from. All I know is that mine are from Texas and Oklahoma.
December 31, 2016 at 10:02 am #11656
O.K. I thought I hadn’t gotten to something, & you caught it, why I keep following the Law. When I was talking about the two laws (arguably 3) as I said before, I am talking the law of blessing & cursing. Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the Law, so why not enjoy the blessings that are left? There is a saying, “A good act does not wash out the bad, nor the bad the good.” God says numerous times, that human beings will fail to uphold the Law, everytime. But at the same time he commands us to obey it, & commends those who do. David wasn’t a man after God’s own heart because he was some perfect guy (let’s be real he wasn’t) but because he attempted to do God’s will & when he did flub he was genuinely penitent & realized that there was really nothing he could do to make up for his mistakes. I think what I am trying to say is, the New Covenant under Christ is no different than the old one, with the exclusion that we no longer need sacrifices for sin. Jesus atoned for us. And no we are free from the punishments. But now we are left to do the blessings.
Jesus says on several occasions “if you love me you will obey my commandments.”
That’s still implying some sort of rule. And that we do them out of love rather than an attempt of Salvation. John clears up this in 1 John 3:4. Sin is the breaking of the Law. God is still using the Law as the measure by which he judged sin.
Look at it this way. God is everlasting & his will & rules are eternal. Would God change his mind about how he dealt with his children? Moreover, would he in bringing in the Gentiles have one set of rules for part of his children & another set of rules for another part of his family, the Jews. All men are governed by the same set of rules, whether or not they have ever heard the Gospel. So, when they hear the Gospel would that change?
Look at the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. This elaborates more on the different laws concept btw. In the beginning, they talk about not having to make Gentiles circumcise themselves according to the law. This is a reference to that third law that Jesus comes smack up against time after time again. The Oral Law. This is a lot of the Talmud, & other writings, making the Law a burden rather than the relative simplicity that it is supposed to be. In the 1st century, the rabbinical teaching was that to become a proselyte, one had to be circumcised to be allowed into the Kingdom of Israel. No where is this said in the actual law. However, just a few verses down, (verses 20-21) it mentions several things that the converts are to give up on immediately. Namely eating food sacrificed to idols, impurity, eating strangled things, & drinking blood. Why only those things? Because Moses is read on every Sabbath in the Synagogues. When the Gentiles convert, they are expected to be in the Synagogues on the Sabbath listening to the Law, & what they’re supposed to do next comes from there.
Finally, we follow the law because we want to be more like Jesus. We established earlier (in the last comment) that Jesus was perfect because he never sinned according to the Law of his Father (bye the bye, would the Son change the Father’s rules). Since you didn’t disagree with that, I’ll just assumed you agreed. So by proxy, Jesus followed the Law all of his life & never once disobeyed. We know how Jesus lived. And since we want to live more like Jesus, we (my family) follow the Law.
Gosh dude, that was a lot. Seriously, “O Sidler, Where Art Thou?” This needs to be moved to another thread. And dude, I know you didn’t mean this, but in that poem there’s a typo.
“It bids us fly and gives us wigs,” instead of wings. Laughed so hard when I read that man. No offense that’s just hilarious. Gives us wigs ha.
Your ancestors come from the Great Republic of Texas? Well then isn’t that a nationality all to itself? LOL. My dad’s from Texas, so I totally get it. Tyson’s an English name I believe though.
Looking forward to talking with you more, Elia Tyson!
December 31, 2016 at 11:26 am #11659
Ha. Thanks for catching that typo. I guess I should read over my posts more carefully…. Maybe Madame Sidler could fix it?
One major error. In the New Covenant, the Holy Spirit dwells in us, as I said before. Instead of trying to follow rules, we have the Spirit in us who gives us a desire to follow God, so we don’t need the rules. Let me say that one more time: We don’t follow the law because we want to be more like Jesus. We have the Holy Spirit, who is already giving us the desire to be like Jesus.
The apostles also specifically stated that it was bad that some of the Jews were trying to get Gentiles to follow the law after they had become Christians.
By the way, Happy New Year from Thailand! It’s already 2017 over here. Or 2560, by the Buddhist calendar. What does your family do for New Year?
December 31, 2016 at 10:07 pm #11664
Haha, I totally laughed when I read that second paragraph. No offense. So, since the Holy Spirit being a member of the Trinity living in us, we no longer need the rules that the Father gives us? The Holy Spirit (to me) just gives us the ability to follow the Law with more capability, & because we have the Holy Spirit, I just wanna do the Law more, since there’s more responsibility as one of God’s kids & bearing Jesus’ name. I think (personally) that the Holy Spirit in us, & a desire to follow the Law don’t cancel each other out at all, they jus naturally follow. Since God is in us, we do what God tells his people to do.
As for the next thing, I don’t remember any verses like that. Maybe I am forgetting, could you send me a reference? Because that sound’s like it would be in direct contradiction to what Jesus said in Matt 23:2, where he tells the disciples to listen to what the Pharisees say when they read the Torah scrolls. Anyway, I don’t mean to ever get preachy. If you read my comments on the Places Beyond the Maps you’ll that I don’t like movies (and people) that act all high & mighty & by extent preachy. If God hasn’t laid these things on your heart, I don’t blame you. It took me & mine about 6 years to get to where we are. And like I said, I am not mainstream.
And dude, Happy New Year! As the traditional Jewish proverb goes “another year, God willing.” Haha, love that one. Tonight’s the last night of Channukah, so we had a New Year’s/Channukah party over at a friend’s house, which is why I haven’t gotten back to you until now. Speaking of which, is the Buddhist New Year start when he died or when he was born? I can never remember.
And I say that with a Buddhist pagoda not 15 miles from here.
I am still so geeking out over here in America, that I am sending like two daily messages over to a guy over in Thailand that I’ve never even met. Technology bro! It’s awesome! Sometimes I just want to break into my British accent, & go all formal with these. But hey, it’s all good. You make me go back and check my references, which I haven’t been able to do in a while. Thanks for that!
So, on a movie note, who’s your favorite director/writer? And who’s your favorite composer? My favorite director’s probably Chris Nolan. Dang, I just watched Dark Knight again a day or two ago, & holy cow was it awesome. Not a comic book Batman & Joker, but Batman & Joker nonetheless. And that cast, phew, awesome all round. I could go on about that movie. I have a lot of people in the running for favorite composers. John Williams, Howard Shore, Patrick Doyle, James Horner (RIP), Hans Zimmer, Michael Giacchinno… I wanna hear back from you on those.
Looking forward to talking with you more Elia Tyson!
December 31, 2016 at 10:33 pm #11666
Hmm. We may just have to agree to disagree, because we’ve both said the same things several times and I think we’re not understanding each other.
I don’t watch many movies, and Bateman isn’t one of the few that I have watched. The only movies like that that I watch are Lord of the Rings and Hobbit, and a few historical fiction films. What’s Channukah?
January 1, 2017 at 10:41 pm #11683
Yeah, agree to disagree. But dude, you haven’t watched Batman (not even the old animated series from the nineties)? Dude I completely grew up on that & Superman when I was a kid. That and the old Transformers from the eighties. Showing my age! My dad’s age to be more precise. So many memories of that. So have you watched the original Star Wars trilogy? Cause if not we need to get you back to the States & marathon that bro. Get a couple of Mexican sodas, popcorn, it’d be awesome bro. Then we’d move on to Dark Knight trilogy, & go from there. I haven’t had some to marathon movies with that haven’t much of an idea of what movie there about to watch, & that would be a welcome change.
So, you really only follow up with J.R.R. Tolkien stuff (and A.P. that paragon). What do you think of the Silmarillion? Who’s your favorite?
Channukah (Hannukah) is the Festival of Dedication that Jesus goes to in John 10. Festival of Lights it’s also called. It happened in between the testaments when the Maccabees (Jewish revolutionaries) defeated the Selucids (the Greek occupiers) & kicked them out of Israel. The Greek King, Antiochus Epiphanes (the lawless king prophecied about in the later parts of Daniel) set up an alter to Zeus in the Temple & sacrificed a pig on the altar. So obviously when the Temple was reclaimed things had to be reconsecrated. But when they came down into the vaults to find oil for the Menorah (lampstand) there was only enough for one day. So they put it in & prayed. It lasted for the 8 days it took for more oil to be made. So there are 8 days of Channukah in which one stuffs oneself with as much fried foods as possible (fried because of the oil). Doughnuts & Latkes (potato pancakes) are the most frequently eaten.
Latkes are eaten with applesauce & sour cream, & apparently I’m pretty good at making them.
(P.S. Sorry for getting back to you so late. Over at a friend’s place about an hour from here.)
January 1, 2017 at 11:20 pm #11684
Yeah, I’m a weirdo. I don’t watch Star Wars or superhero movies (not because I think superheroes are bad, I just couldn’t find any individual movies that looked okay). I was mad that Dad wouldn’t let me watch that kind of stuff when I was younger, but I’ve come to have similar convictions to him.
I love the Silmarillion! It’s so cool how Tolkien strings all of those short stories into one long history of Middle-Earth. I also really like the Children of Húrin (which I think is included in Unfineshed Tales). Of course, none of Tolkien’s writing comes anywhere close to the Wingfeather Saga. Although, it would be cool if Mr. Peterson wrote a Silmarillion-like history of Aerwiar.
If we had a movie marathon, we should totally do The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit extended editions. That would be like 21 hours of movie. And eat all the hobbit meals.
Pancakes for breakfast.
Cinnamon rolls for second breakfast.
Toast with jelly for elevenses.
Hamburgers for lunch (with soda, of course).
Ice cream for afternoon tea.
Chicken sandwiches for dinner (more soda).
Pizza for supper (root bear floats and pumpkin pie for dessert).
At the end we would probably all be sick, but it would be so much fun. You should come visit some time and we could do it! I’ll send a dragon over for you tomorrow. Red or gold?
January 2, 2017 at 7:27 am #11695
Sidler has arrived & like a boss! Scared me out of my shoes of course! LOL!
Silmarillion for days! My personal favorites are Feanor & Fingolfin, as well as the creation of the sun and moon. It would be awesome for A.P. to make something like that for Middle-Earth! I personally am working on the Eremiad, which is just barely referenced in a footnote in N!OBE. That abbreviation works a lot better than OTEOTDSOD. Anyway, it’s a story of family, tragedy, redemption, ambition, adventures, escapes, true love, miracles… Sorry I was fading into my Princess Bride opener there.
Totally! But only the extended editions! The others are not to be mentioned for their brevity! We would have to see if we could pad it out to being 26 hours in reference to the 26 miles in the original Marathon. I am a geek like that, with paying attention to little details.
Pancakes for breakfast (with strawberry syrup)
Cinnamon rolls for 2nd breakfast (strawberry orange & original)
Toast w/ jelly for elevenses (strawberry)
Cheeseburgers for lunch with fries (our first diversion, & yes, Mexican or Texan sodas, personally I’ll take a fanta)
Ice Cream for afternoon tea (I like pretty much everything, so let’s say Neapoliton. And I don’t drink tea, but for the sake of the occasion I will.)
Chicken sandwiches for dinner, more soda, & fries (Amen!)
Cheese Pizza for dinner (strawberry fizz floats w/ my great grandma’s famous chocolate pie for dessert)
And yes we would be sick but it would be worth it! We should probably record our commentary for posterity (knowing they probably won’t understand half the references we are making). And yes, commentate!
As for the dragon idea (sniffles heartfeltly), since you’ve offered, & seem to be in the position, Anglacon the Black!
January 2, 2017 at 7:48 am #11696
By the way, congrats on your brother getting Baptised!
January 2, 2017 at 8:21 am #11697
Your writing the Eremiad!? You have to send that to me when you are done! I wanted to write it, but I have trouble building off someone else’s world. The weird thing about that story is, thirteen years later there is a totally different family ruling. Did they all die, and another family had to take the throne? Or was there an error in the book Janner was reading in Monster in the Hollows? Tell me when you figure it out!
Speaking of dragons, I’m starting a book called The Dragonkeeper Saga. Heavily influenced by Wingfeather Saga and J. R. R. Tolkien, and a little bit of Mara, Daughter of the Nile thrown in there (by the way, have you read that?). About 6,000 words so far.
Anglacon the Black? I was hoping you would choose one that wasn’t so evil…
January 2, 2017 at 8:27 am #11698
Yeah boy, the Eremiad is awesome! The fact another family has to take the throne is a major plot point actually. I’ll have to send it to you later.
I haven’t heard of the dragon keeper saga, but I’ll have to look into it!
As for Anglacon, style points bro! And hey, I finally caught you online nice!
(Disclaimer: if you read this later I am posting this 5 minutes after you)
January 2, 2017 at 9:59 am #11699
Oops. Sorry I got off so fast. I was hacking Khan Academy, giving myself a Black Hole bage. It went pretty well, but as soon as I refreshed the page it all went away. Do you use Khan Academy or do any programming?
I also wrote a book called PEACEWAR last year (2016 is last year already!? Yikes!). It’s free somewhere on Noisetrade Books.
Cool that you noticed those two dates. Have you noticed any other weird things in the Saga? The only other ones I found where small typos (O.B.P.’s editor should definitely be fired).
January 2, 2017 at 8:10 pm #11708
It’s all good man. I use Easy Peasy All-in-one-Highschool, which links over to Khan Academy about a third of the time. Sadly, I am not very technically gifted, & coding is just beyond me. Wish I was better at it, but I have never really had much technology & much reason to code said technology, so it just kinda went away.
Dude, it’s totally awesome that you’ve actually finished a book! Totally gonna have to download that when I get to a place with better internet. I (sadly & gleefully) am one of those rabbit hole writers. I start something, & then the stuff that I research sends me writing about something else. I just started on the Eremiad, so that’s gonna take a while. I am just about half way done with the book I have been working on, which has been swamped from every possible direction (what with family business). Since we’re half way done & it still doesn’t really have a title, let’s just call it after the main character, Lars. It’s a historical fiction novel, going on in the time after the end of (but still kind of in the eye) of the 100 years war, my second favorite war of all time. Mainly because of Shakespeare’s (and Kenneth Branagh’s) Henry V I am not gonna lie. I may have to send you that after I get better internet, & read your book (no point in asking a published author to read an unpublished author when he hasn’t even read the author who’s opinion he’s asking). BTW (you don’t have to answer this one if you don’t want to) how old are you bro? We’re pretty much on the same level here, & that typically doesn’t happen from someone my age. Just out of curiosity.
I haven’t caught that many typo’s in Mr. A.P.’s work. I guess it’s because the editors don’t get paid off of the printing of dogfood labels. Anyway. Loving this talk.
Hope to talk to you more, Elia Tyson.
January 2, 2017 at 8:56 pm #11710
I’m 14. How old are you? I can’t wait to read your books! They sound very interesting.
Ha! I love that part in Wingfeather Tales where it talks about dog food labels. I think in the dictionary “dog food labels” is listed as an antonym for “Wingfeather Saga”.
January 3, 2017 at 1:53 am #11711
Sorry to bring this up again, but I was reading through Hebrews today, and I was wondering what you thought of 8:13.
January 3, 2017 at 7:06 am #11715
Hi again! Sorry for so many random posts. We were talking about programming earlier, and I did something pretty cool. Follow the instructions for fun results.
1. Go to this link.
2. Copy all of the text (this may take a minute).
3. Open Google Chrome, select a blank spot on the home screen, and right click.
4. Select “Inspect”.
5. At the top, there will be a line that say <html lang=”en”>. Right click it.
6. Select “Edit as HTML”. Copy all of the text and hit delete.
7. Paste in the text from my document, click a blank spot below the text that you just pasted, and click “X” on the inspector.
I hope that works. And don’t refresh the page before you are done looking, it will all go away.
January 3, 2017 at 9:05 am #11716
When I awoke this morning, I was pleased to see not one, not two, but 3 comments from our dear friend across the sea. I, my dear Tyson, am fully confirmed to be a unpublished bum at 16. But hopefully in the future that will change. And honestly, the concept of a kid younger than me making more sense than older teens isn’t a new concept. I never caught that antonym though. Nice!
No problem man about bringing that back up. Again, I am just gonna mention the Jeremiah 30 where God explains why he is erasing the old covenant. It isn’t the covenant itself that is the problem. It is humanity’s own tendency to break it. So he’s just going to take the same covenant off of stone & write it on our hearts. Behold New Covenant.
On comment #3, I got to step three, & then I realized I didn’t have google chrome, which would take (according to my calculations) 2 days to install with my internet. For the moment I live out in a cabin in the woods with barely the internet for leaving comments & wikipedia articles. However, we are going to be moving out & into a town again in approximately 12 days to a house with much better internet so when that happens I am gonna have to go back and do that.
Anyway, hope to talk to more Elia Tyson!
January 3, 2017 at 9:30 am #11717
That sounds like fun! I love cabins. My dad’s side of the family and us all went up to a cabin in Colorado three times in the last eight years or so (yikes! Did I just say eight years? I’m getting old…). The internet there, however, was so fast that once my uncles were able to play Mario Kart online with someone in Texas.
Of course, in New Mexico, you don’t need a cabin. We lived in La Luz, close to Alamogordo, close to White Sands Missile Range where they tested the atomic bomb. There are two mountain ranges on either side of us, and they both get a couple of feet of snow in the winter. That’s when you have to watch out for Bomnubles.
And, at the base of the mountains west of us (also known as the Stony Mountains) is White Sands. I think it’s a hundred or more square miles of white sand. So we go sledding there in the summer and in the mountains in the snow in the winter (to many “in the”s).
Have fun at the cabin, and tell me if you see any bomnubles, snickbuzzards, or browndogs! (Hurls another virtual snowball, which is promptly caught and destroyed by a virtual snickbuzzard.)
January 2, 2017 at 12:13 am #11689
Got the typo, Elia. 🙂
December 29, 2016 at 3:32 pm #11624
I never knew German that well, but I did know some. However, that was more than 20 years ago and I have forgotten the vast majority of what I knew. If you ask me to explain German to you, or to list vocabulary words, I can’t. If you just speak to me in German or if I try to read it, I can often figure out what you are talking about. But I still can’t explain WHY I know what you are talking about, I just vaguely remember things and know.
There are a LOT of people here interested in languages! (Hi Taylor! Welcome to the conversation.) How fun! I wonder how many languages we, as a whole community, know?
December 29, 2016 at 3:33 pm #11625
Since I’m way off topic for this story, maybe I will make a thread for this in community conversations. Then more people might find it and come tell us what languages they know.
December 30, 2016 at 9:00 am #11639
peter jackson and howard shore would be expensive haha
when i read the list of who we could picture as certain characters unfortunately most of them would be expensive.
we never know what can happen in life.
frankly the first time i saw fotr i did not know what i was getting into and was bored and it was dark. the moria scene scared me. then i loved it
anyway. i heard that disney is redoing the black cauldron and wants to make it better. i hope its true we have that to look forward to.
sorry to interrupt and talk randomly
yeah my sister got me unfinished tales and a rabbit room gift card for c hristmas. the past couple years i have been reading more and just taking the pace i need . reading is exciting and i have a goal to read all of tolkien’s books 🙂
January 2, 2017 at 12:12 am #11688
Can I help you?
You guys!!! You blow my mind. This conversation is epic! Literally in some places! ::rimshot:: Sorry it’s taken me so long to respond; I went to visit my family in Ban Rona for Christmas. 🙂 I’ll do my best to figure out a good place to split the thread. So glad to see you enjoying deep conversations with each other. 🙂
January 2, 2017 at 8:12 pm #11709
By the way, that title on the thread is hilarious. We discuss ALL THE THINGS bro. Everything ever discussed, we brought up first. Sidler’s such a boss with her job bro. If Oskar ever replaces her, I’d sue without a moment’s hesitation.
January 3, 2017 at 9:37 am #11718
Yes, my young Elia, time comes upon quicker than we’d like to admit. I am pleased to say however, that time doesn’t all ways bring bad things. But I accept your virtual snowball with great rage & indignace. I throw it back at thee! Even though there is no virtual snow with which to pack it, still backwards I fling!
Speaking of atomic bombs we are about an hour away from Oak Ridge, where they made said atomic bombs. I assume that the rare New Mexican Bomnubble is essentially our version of Godzilla or something. Some ferocious beast that was mutated by the radiation. I am here in the Appalacian Mountains (which I am sure I said before). So we don’t have as much snow.
But trust me Elia, when coyotes are howling outside your window once a week, one doesn’t feel the need to go searching for monsters.
January 3, 2017 at 10:00 am #11719
We used to house sit once in a while for our freinds who lived up in the mountains, and once every two or three nights, we would hear a whole pack of coyotes right outside the house. They had a dog who was part wolf, thought.
I hardly think being two years older than me qualifies you to call me “young”. Speaking of age, do you drive yet? You have to be eighteen to drive in Thailand, so I still have a while to wait.
Speaking of virtual things, Madame Sidler, how does the “Code” button on the comment writer work? Can I put HTML in there?
January 4, 2017 at 1:22 pm #11746
That is an excellent question and I shall investigate.
January 4, 2017 at 6:58 pm #11752
According to the Codex of Disembodied Manual Conversing:
‘code’ (HTML/PHP/SQL Code for preformatted text)
But immediately thereafter the page was smudged by what may have been mustard, and I haven’t been able to find out anything further. If you want to try it you may. I’ll keep an eye on things to make sure nothing catches fire.
January 3, 2017 at 10:36 am #11721
Yeah, those times really freak my dog out. She is half black lab, a quarter australian shepherd & a quarter blue heeler. Her temperment is more of, “I am naturally superior to you all, fetch my bone.” Or “How dare you even mention the word bath in my presence, now rub my tummy (whilst rolling over).” Even better, “Ah, you are not going to drop my food down to me from the table. My food, that I allow you to eat. I sneeze in your general direction human.” So part of her is just terrified, the other part of her is asking why she isn’t running around barking with them.
Sorry for calling you young. My Star Wars voice kind of took over there. No I do not drive & I have no desire to. However I would like a job so I am having to learn anyway. I don’t get why they let teens over here drive when they’re 16. Most kids today aren’t very responsible over here & so it’s just a hazard for them to be out on the road. Then again I would have preferred to have gone to work when I was 13 so if people couldn’t drive till they were 18 then I would’ve been walking for about 5 years. LOL. So I am learning to drive. It can be entertaining, but I am not crazy about it.
Don’t worry about getting older, it happens by itself. I don’t mean to get you down, but 15 & 16 are such a pain. You’re kind of in that limbo world where you’re not a kid, & you’re not an adult. Adults are willing to treat you as an adult if you mess up, but not on a day to day basis. I’d do anything to be 14 again. Actually 9, because that’s when we moved over to Chicago & I really started noticing a lot more adult stuff. And worrying about it a lot. I think it really freaked Mom out when her 9 year old boy (who had been rather sheltered I will admit) start talking about where the money was coming from to get into the RV & the utilities & all that stuff.
Anyway, don’t get to excited. It’s a tough world out there. Stay a kid while your can.
January 3, 2017 at 11:00 am #11722
That was mostly a joke, you can call me “young” if you like. But you may start getting called “old”. 🙂
If it were up to me, I would be twelve years old and in New Mexico going sledding and playing soccer and swimming with my friends. but apparently God had other plans, and whatever they are I’m sure that what He decides is what is best for me.
Yeah, for me it was about when I turned eleven, when we moved to Thailand the first time, that I started getting interested in “adult stuff”. Mostly because I had to either hang out with adults or kids four years younger than me.
I mentioned the first time that we moved to Thailand, so that requires some explanation.
My dad came over to Thailand in the summer of 2012, to take a TEFL (Teaching English as a Foreign Language) course, and to check it out and see if it might be a good place to move. Almost exactly a year later, we sold almost everything and moved to Chiang Mai, while Mom was eight and a half months pregnant. After my little sister was born, she got sick, and had migraines once or twice a week. We moved to Kalasin, in the northeastern part of Thailand six months after we arrived in Chiang Mai, because we though it would be easier to learn Thai there than in Chiang Mai, where there are (literally) thousands of foreigners. After about three months in Kalasin, Mom and I and my four younger siblings flew back to the U.S. for a visit, but we didn’t end up beinabke to come back.
So we were in New Mexico again for a year (summer 2014 to summer 2015), where God provided an amazing house with five bedrooms and an acre of nice land, two doors down from my grandparents. I also met to amazing freinds, who I still keep in touch with.
During that time, God healed Mom and we decided that we would be able to go back. So, we moved back over hear, and for most of 2016 we were at a language school a couple hours north of Bangkok, and then about a month or two ago we moved to a small town about thirty minutes from Kalasin, where we used to live.
Yikes! It’s midnight! I need to go to bed. Goodnight, and talk to you later!
January 3, 2017 at 3:37 pm #11724
Brace yourselves, old age is coming.
LOL!!!!!! Too many exclamation points. Whatever I’m leaving them. Swimming I can agree with, sledding I can agree with, & soccer as well as long as I’m the goalie. I am incredibly skinny (so much so that it scares my mother), but I have terrible stamina, & heat really does a number on me. So if I’m running around in the blithering heat of NM I’d probably be exhausted in 5 minutes, sofor me to play with you’ns I’d have to be goalie. Speaking of which what do you say in terms of second person plural? I grew up saying “y’all” & “you” but in east TN they say “you’ns,” a contraction of “you ones.” And is it football or soccer over there? And do you play cricket over there as well? I have never played but I know the rules & have always wanted too.
Sorry about you having to get older quickly. I know how that feels. Especially the “either adults or the kids 4 years younger than me take your pick” part. But hey, maybe that’s why I am so good with kids younger than me & so awkward with kids my age and older. As a byproduct of my awkwardness, I used to shoot myself in the foot all the time. I would crush on all the older girls, like ones who were 3 or 4 years older than me. So yeah, I don’t really crush on girls anymore.
That crippling moment when you realize… “there is no word for friendzone in Thai.”
Awesome story bro! Though admittedly nerve-racking. Let me tell you mine if you will. Cue the Gilligan’s Island theme song. I was born in Seattle, WA, to a pair of student ministers. There was a problem however. God was calling my dad to be a preacher. So after a brief stay over at my grandparents, my dad accepted a position in the Swamps of Missouri before I turned 1. Oh, Gideon MO. Such happy memories, & such dark memories. The people there were all sweet & kind. The flats were muddy & wet, & the cotton was thick. Cotton wood trees would dot the landscape. Some would even be named. But in those swamps dwell mosquitoes unnummerable. My dad would go out & spray in the carport with two cans morning & night & thousands would fall everytime. They would bite him some, but they came to me like the plague. I wouldn’t go outside for what seemed like weeks at a time the mosquitoes were so bad. My little sister was born there who (thank God) still is more immature at 12 then I was at 9. She sadly was not tasty to the mosquitoes, & I don’t remember her ever getting bit more than 20 times.
We then “moved on up” to Macomb IL after 4 & a half years. I say that when I still have fonder memories of Gideon MO. I took a year of private school, which is the only grade (3rd) which I was not homeschooled, having skipped Kindergarten & 6th grade. Nonetheless my dad had a good job preaching up there, until he was asked to leave in less than 2 years. I don’t even remember what it was about, but it hit the whole family pretty hard. It was the first time my dad got turned down from a preaching job, & it was the first time I considered that anyone over 18 didn’t like me. There was a lot of indirect spite coming at my family, but what really stuck with me was that the world really didn’t look after your best interests, & you had to do the best you could with family & (when you were older) yourself.
Then we moved as part of a church plant to Chicago, which didn’t last long.
But still that was a really bad time for my family, one I don’t really care to talk about much. This is also when I started to really get into to politics & whatnot so there’s that.
Then we moved to my grandparents in Kentucky again for 3 & a half years. Yeah. Anyway they were kinda bad times financially but I really enjoyed those years a lot more than any other to be quite honest. It wasn’t because my grandparents spoiled me or anything like that, but the neighborhood we lived in was really calm & relaxed.
Then my dad got another preaching job (yeah!). We then came down to East TN where we still remain. We are no longer still at the church we were at, but we are still in the area & are no involved in another church plant. We are in limbo at the moment, but like I said we should be moving to a more permanent residence soon.
So, we are officially about 12 hours apart. Nice to know! It’s 4:30 here PM here, so tomorrow should already be today for you. Anyway, hope to keep talking to you more, Elia Tyson!
January 3, 2017 at 7:22 pm #11726
Hmm. Let me think. We would probably say just “you”, or maybe “you guys”. A lot of people from there would say “y’all”, though.
We call soccer football over here, and real football is called American football.
I have played cricket here once, but that was with our Pakistani friends in Chiang Mai. Thai people don’t play it because Thailand was never colonized by the British. That’s also why hardly anyone speaks English.
That’s a lot of moving! I can remember moving about eight or so times, but we moved a lot more than between the time I was born and when I was about two.
It’s hard to make freinds over here, because so far all of the boys just want to play soccer and all of the girls just stare and giggle. I do have a few auditor freinds, though, and we get together with one guy to study Romans (in Thai) once a week.
Speaking of soccer, it’s really weird playing over here. The kids laugh at everything you do. Try to kick the ball and miss? They laugh. Score a goal? They laugh. I guess everything we do looks funny.
January 3, 2017 at 10:31 pm #11729
Sorry, adult, not auditor. I should read over my posts before I post them…
January 3, 2017 at 8:04 pm #11727
Hey, good morning! You actually get up at a decent hour! Unlike this bum over here. (Referring to myself).
Totally get that about not making friends. Except over here the guys talk either about technology or (especially) cars. I could have a decent conversation with anyone for about 5 minutes, & then it would be either cars or NASCAR. It’s really popular over here, but I can’t ever get into cars going around in circles. Horse racing I get, but cars? It just never appealed to me. And girls are the same way everywhere man, they just stare & giggle. Or they are 4 years older/younger than you and have their eyes on their phones. Seriously man the preteens are on phones more & know how to use ’em better than pretty much anyone & it gets on my nerves.
So you have auditor friends? What are those? Do you mean editors? Or prosecutors? I didn’t get that, my apologies.
I guess guys like us must seem weird over there. I mean think about it. We’re taller (since you’re from Texas I am gonna assume you’re taller. Everything’s bigger in Texas) & ganglier (x10) & we are pretty pale comparatively. So our loping along trying to play games they’re professionals at (virtually) must probably seem like some kinda white chicken flopping aimlessly around.
So, a while back you said you’d like to play soccer with your friends. But over there you say you’re bored with it. I know moderation is best, & the people you play with makes a big difference. But what kinda games do you like to do? Video games, board games, outdoor games you name it. And what do you like to do in general?
Anyway, hope to keep talking to you more Elia Tyson!
January 3, 2017 at 10:56 pm #11730
See the comment bellow my last post about the “auditor” typo. That was funny.
I wish my parents thought that 8:00 was a decent hour, but unfortunately they don’t. Mom gets up before six every morning, and Dad gets up not long after. 😉
I’m not bored playing soccer, I really like it, but I like having freinds who talk about more important things. It’s weird, though, because in the U.S., I was pretty good at soccer, and I was faster than most of the kids I played with, but here the eight and nine year olds are as fast as I am.
I’m actually not that tall. I was born in Texas, but my mom is from Oklahoma and my Dad is from New Mexico.
I had one freind in the U.S. who was exactly the same height and speed as me. It was really funny, because whenever we played tag games, neither one of us could catch the other one.
Hmm… I like football and soccer and basketball. Oh yeah, and ultimate frisbee! That is probably my favorite sport, but no one plays it over here (except in Chiang Mai, but you can find anything in Chiang Mai). I also like board games like Catan and Agricola and Peurto Rico (if you hadn’t played those you should check them out), and I play a lot of hearts, too, because it’s one of my brothers’ favorite game. I don’t play video games.
My favorite things to do are probably Wingfeathering (reading the Wingfeather Saga, listening to Andrew Peterson music, talking with people on the Wingfeather forum, etc.), reading, programming, and writing stories.
How about you?
January 4, 2017 at 9:34 am #11734
Ha, yeah, my mistake! That was funny though.
Totally get that about friends talking about more important things, I guess that’s something you & me both need to have. I (like you) are on better terms with the adults than with kids & though I try to be friends they never seem to be on the same page. Anyway, it is what it is.
I am surprised that you aren’t tall being from Texas. Born in Texas what’s more. No dude, I get it. Pretty much everyone I talk to is shorter these days. It doesn’t help matters when you’re 6’3” & your dad’s 6’4”. You kinda get a limited view of things.
I like football (as a corner or safety, can’t throw to save my life), baseball & I enjoy watching hockey (though it would probably be a disaster if I ever went out on the ice). I have never heard of any of those board games (but I am looking them up as I speak) but I do play a lot of hearts, which in terms of computer card games is my favorite. I do enjoy war & 5 card draw a lot however. As for board games I play Risk, Chess, & Monopoly. I really enjoy them & I am quite good at them. I also enjoy a bit of Apples to Apples. I have a few video games but mainly my sister plays them. To show you how outdated I am I am going to be (hopefully) buying a computer game from 2006 when we get out to our new place. I still play games from the 90’s & early 2000’s on my computer because that’s just the kind of technology I understand & grew up with. It also kind of affects my sense of humor. When I am around adults I get their humor because it’s from times that my parents & grandparents watched movies & listened to the radio & I understand that sort of pop culture. But kids today I don’t get more than a third of the jokes at anytime. It’s practically like we grew up in a different time.
Wingfeathering is definitively on my always do list. As is reading, writing, & talking to my family. Me & my father are really into comic books, & in many ways I know more than he does now, so we have essentially rewritten both major comic book franchises (DC & Marvel) to flow more seamlessly & tie up all the various loose ends made by said 70 years of comics. I say rewritten when we just have long conversations and just carry around “what we’ve learned” until the next conversation & add it to the lore that we make the next time. It’s really fun & it really clears up a lot of the annoying things (like magic) really well & in both separate universes.
Anyway, hope to talk to you more Elia Tyson!
January 4, 2017 at 10:03 am #11735
Actually, my dad is 5’10. What’s funny, is that his dad was 6’1, and his dad was 6’4. So Dad has this running joke about how I’m going to be 5’7, and my son is going to be 5’4, and so on. He doesn’t have much time left to keep telling that joke, though, I’m already 5’4. Just three more inches!
Okay, actually, I do play a video game once in a while, but I don’t know if that counts since I programmed it. I think this is my best game. I don’t know if you can play it with your cabin-wifi, but maybe you can look at it when you get back to civilization.
I play a little Risk and Monopoly and Chess, and I like Apples to Apples but we don’t have it. When my oldest little brother was four, he would play Monopoly with me and Dad almost every day, and he would beat us just about every time. He could also play Chess when he was four, and he was good enough to beat adults once in a while.
I don’t read many comic books. Partly because I can’t find any I like, and partly because they are expensive on Kindle, and even more expensive to ship paper versions. Of course, I will be reading one comic book several times (hopefully) very soon. “Oh Florid Sword and Shadowblade, where art thou?”
January 4, 2017 at 10:06 am #11736
Wow. I just checked, and our conversation is almost 15,000 words. Soon we’ll be able to make a book out of it!
January 4, 2017 at 2:58 pm #11751
Just 3 more inches! You can do it bro!
I could play that. And I was awful. But if you programmed that than congratulations. You are successfully more awesome than I am!
Shadowblade & the Florid Sword! It’s gonna be awesome! What do you hope that they do, go to the strand to reclaim the eyes of the Castle Kitten? Slay Troll Mercenaries? Or support the reclamation of Skree by Queen Sara Cobbler/Wingfeather? Aghh! I can hardly wait! I would like a “they’re the heroes that Dugtown deserve, & the ones it needs…” line drop (Dark Knight reference).
So, who would you like to follow up with most of all, of the Wingfeather Saga? I think I would like to see a royal family where Janner didn’t survive. I think that Nia would remain the power behind the throne for many years after Janner’s death. I think she would be queenly, but also a lot more sullen after the 4 deaths of her husband, Rudric, Podo, & Janner, back to back to back to back like that. I think she would be a capable ruler, but still try to make her children as happy as possible. Leeli would probably have married the “Sir” Thorn O’Sally of the Green Hollows or Prince What’s-His-Face from Yorsha Doon to cement one of those two regions.
Oh gosh. That awkward moment when you realize that Kalmar would probably marry Sara to cement Skree under Anniera! Oh, um, cough cough, that would be awkward. And suprisingly I think that would actually work rather well, after I have walked away from this for about 5 minutes. I mean, Sara would temper Kalmar pretty well, & Kalmar would probably really be good for her to relieve what would be essentially PTSD after the Fork! Factory! for all those years (is that just me or does that sound like a musical number, “Fork! Factory!”).
So yeah, that may really work out & I would like to see would certainly be an interesting family life afterwards.
Anyway, it’s my parents 20th anniversary today. So shout out to them!
Hope to keep talking you more, Elia Tyson!
January 4, 2017 at 7:56 pm #11753
Hey! Tell them happy anniversary for me! My parent’s fifteenth anniversary was last year. Yeah, I was born nine months and a week after they were married.
Spoilers ahead! Caution all people who have not finished the Wingfeather Saga!
I don’t know if I want to talk about what happens after the epilogue…. Of course I would like to see Janner come back, but the realistic side of me doesn’t think he will, and doesn’t want him to.
Sara and Kal? Weird. I guess it would work, though, once they’re older. Wait though, didn’t the Wingfeather’s sort of adopt her? How would that work?
Okay, I’m going to try that code button.
January 4, 2017 at 7:58 pm #11754
That didn’t work. Let’s try this:
January 4, 2017 at 7:59 pm #11755
Hmm. Too bad. Maybe you can trash that, Madame Sidler? We might get virtual roaches if we let it sit there. 🙂
January 5, 2017 at 4:42 am #11758
Hmm, a forum for young writers to come together and edit each others works, & suggest ideas & fixes for problems. I’m in! You’d have to give the author some sort of control though.
On a completely different subject, my parents say thanks! It’s funny that you came along immediately when it took my parents 4 & 1/2 years to get around to me (their oldest).
Yeah, I get not wanting to talk about stuff after the saga, & I totally get that about Janner. Of course I want him back, but that doesn’t mean I think it would happen & I think his “resurrection” would be a real blow to the story.
And yes Kal & Sara would be kinda weird I guess. I got the impression that Sara was adopted by Nia as well. But then again if Janner was resurrected I can’t imagine that stopping him & Sara from getting married down the line. And besides monarchs used to do that all the time. Have members of other royal families growing up in their court & marrying them off to members of their families that is. So I think that Nia would’ve put Kal & Sara together herself if Janner stayed dead. That sounded morbid.
“If Janner stays dead the possibilities are endless.” – A quote from our sponsor. Ugh. My lame attempts at humor.
Anyway you said you don’t want to talk about what happens after the epilogue. So I have a question bro. How did that ending make you feel when you first read it. Did you see it coming? What did you feel when you read the epilogue after that?
Hope to keep talking to you more Elia Tyson!
January 5, 2017 at 10:32 am #11759
Maybe Madame Sidler could add a spoiler alert to this thread?
To be honest with you, when I first read the epilogue, I wanted to rip it out of the book and tear it into a thousand pieces and burn them. I’ve softened my approach a little since then.
At first I thought it ruined the story, but then I realized it was one of the reasons that the story was so good.
It crossed my mind that they might use the First Well, but I read the entire series in five days, so I didn’t stop and think about anything, really.
Yeah, my mom and dad have an interesting story…. Their wedding was six weeks after they decided to get married, and then I was born nine months and a week later.
So where is this cabin that you are staying in? Are you doing school right now, or are you on vacation?
January 5, 2017 at 11:19 am #11760
Yeah, spoiler thread definitively is required for us. You can’t be a proper nerd without discussing spoilers with complete strangers on line. LOL.
Completely agree with that bit about the epilogue. I have softened toward it, but I still want to scream “curse you A.P! Why will there be no sequels?!!” Let me use the analogy that I have used a number of times to describe that epilogue. Imagine the Ending of LOTR. The first ending that is. I don’t know about you, but if the whole series ended with Sauron being destroyed & Frodo & Sam sitting there thinking about the Shire as the lava came streaking toward them, I would be pretty content. Aragorn would have survived, & the world would be set back to right. But then imagine that just as it was fading to black, the eagles are coming! “Hey, there’s a chance they might be…” Boom! End Credits! “Saved?”
That’s how that makes me feel. The eagles are coming but their rescue is a lot less certain, & it ticks me off. I am a little cooler with it, but still. And what did you think when Janner died? That is the one question I want to ask Mr. Peterson if I ever get the chance. When you realized he was gonna die, what did you do, & how did your family react?
It’s cool that you had the entire series done in 5 days, doesn’t give you much time to mull though. I had a year and a half until I got WATWK, & in that time I chewed on the story & the characters a lot. There was a lot of fun theorizing and imagining what would happen next. My dad read them in that time. One of the most hilarious things my father ever told me was something that happened at his workplace as he was reading one day. Now, he was in between pastoring jobs & he was working in a customer service place taking calls. He was in MITH (myth?) on the part where Janner puts Grigory in his proper place. He said he was so proud of Janner that he was bawling like a little girl. So now he’s having to answer calls while he’s crying and weeping as college students call in to order text books. It was hilarious (disclaimer: he gave us an example of how his voice sounded at the time, & it was gold)!
Yeah, I get that about your parents. Mine were married 4 months after they met. The hilarious part is that Mom was 6 years older than Dad. So when Mom was graduating college my dad would have been a sophmore in high school. Bye the bye, how many siblings do you have? I only have a little sister (and a dog who rules the entire household with an iron paw). I am pretty sure you have mentioned it once before but just the same. Have they read the series & known your fervor for it?
The cabin that we are staying at is an in-between-houses place. It’s about 30 minutes from the nearest Wal-mart in a place called Del Rio. Have you ever read the Christy books about the girl that came to the Smoky Mts. to teach? If you have, then “El Pano” in the books is Del Rio in real life. We live about 10 minutes from her old mission. Anyway, my dad got let go from the church he was at & so we had to move out of the parsonage. We are gonna be moving to a house closer to Knoxville (where dad’s new job is) in 10 days. I just started school back today (our breaks are always bookmarked by my parents anniversary).
On that depressing note, hope to keep talking to you more Elia Tyson!
January 5, 2017 at 7:50 pm #11764
I am in the car right now and we are getting ready to leave for a conference in a city about two and a half hours away. I will respond soon…. Meanwhile, you will be healed in suspense as to what I am going to say. Hahaha!
January 5, 2017 at 7:51 pm #11765
January 6, 2017 at 5:11 am #11769
I am now officially in suspense! I am at your mercy now Elia Tyson!
Have fun at your conference!
January 6, 2017 at 10:12 am #11772
Thanks! I’m having a lot of fun. We just got back from playing Dutch Blitz with some kids that we met earlier today. What’s really funny is that about half the people at the conference are Dutch, but not many of them actually know how to play Dutch Blitz very well.
Sorry about the typos. We were literally driving away from my house and I was typing as fast as I could.
I have two little brothers (10 and 8) and two little sisters (5 and 3). They enjoyed the Wingfeather Saga. I could always tell when Dad was reading it to them, because there would be total silence, and then every few minutes I would hear them chanting “More! More! More!”. They really like the Saga, but not as much as me.
That story about your dad is funny. That is one of my favorite chapters, too, and if I ever played Janner in a play or movie or something I would very much enjoy saying (screaming) those lines. Of course, there are parts that would be a little weird (like chapter thirteen of MitH).
I just realized I forgot to ask earlier, have you read the Firebird Triology?
January 6, 2017 at 10:21 am #11773
Off topic. But since you don’t watch movies, have you seen The Princess Bride? Have you read it on the offchance you haven’t seen it? If you haven’t read it or seen it, I heartily recommend them. That’s the kind of movie that the whole family will enjoy, coming from both an adult & a kids perspective. Andrew really does take a lot from in terms of his humor & his writing style.
And by the way, it’s awesome that our conversation is almost 15,000 words. That’s actually half of the length that I have typed on Lars!
January 6, 2017 at 9:41 pm #11778
Nice. Dutch Blitz is one of my favorite card games. Most Dutch people over there are probably from Indonesia (the old Dutch Spice Islands), so it makes sense that they have never heard of an Amish game from America.
My little sister (she’s 12, 11 when it was read to her) had a similar experience to your siblings. There would be long periods of when Dad’s voice coming from the next room, doing different accents. Sis would giggle every few moments, & whenever they came to the end of a chapter, she would always say, “well don’t stop now!”
Speaking of accents, how do you hear the voices of the main ensemble? The three kids I just imagined with plain American accents. I thought of Nia that way too, until Dad started reading her with a light Scottish accent. I think of her that way now, since she was raised in the Green Hollows it makes since from a story point of view. But me & Dad differ on Podo & Oskar. I always thought that Podo had an old man voice. He’s described as tall & while muscular he isn’t described as being very broad. Together with his white hair, all the salt that must have gone down his throat for years (and for some reason the old sailor’s cap I always imagine him with), I imagine it being a very raspy weary kind of voice. But Dad does him with a very, very, very thick Scotch accent. I don’t think this makes sense, since Scotch is supposed to be Hollish. Podo was raised in Skree, & spent the better part of his life on the western side of the Dark Sea. So the idea of him having a thicker accent that Nia has always seemed off to me.
And now we come to Oskar. I imagine him with a very posh British accent. I don’t know why but for some reason I always imagined him with a full beard, & a lot more dignified than a lot of the illustrations in the books actually portray him (to be quite honest the picture on the trading cards goes in line the most of what I imagine). But my Dad does him with a very foppish cockney accent & reads Oskar as being a humorous fat man with a passion for books that happens to get caught up in the middle of things, rather than a scholarly learned gentleman that has been involved in illegal smuggling & rebellious activities since the Fangs arrived who planned on helping the Wingfeathers from the beginning rather than simply falling in with them.
Which leaves us with Bonifer. I imagined him with a typical American accent until we actually got a look at him. But as soon as we got a look at the guy this random thought popped into my head “this man is either Welsh or French.” Try reading him that way. I have read him both ways multiple times & he works with either one. My Dad reads him with nearly the exact same old man voice that I imagine Podo with, just weaker, which is frustrating however.
So how do you read the characters?
And no I have not read the Firebird Trilogy. Gonna have to look into it. And this is your friendly neighborhood WhiteKnight, signing off.
January 7, 2017 at 9:51 am #11784
Actually, most of the Dutch people here are missionaries from the Netherlands.
I imagined the Wingfeather characters’s accents just like Andrew Peterson read them, with the exception of Osker. I imagined Osker’s voice a little (just a little) deeper and stronger. I think of him somewhere in between what you and your dad think. He’s not exactly a born adventurer (just look at that belly!), but he didn’t just get accidentally caught up in the adventure, either. He’d been smuggling weapons into Anklejelly Manor for Gammon for years.
I have not read Princess Bride. My odd beliefs about movie and book content again.
By the way (well, not exactly by the way, it was closer to the middle of the path, right past that pothole and in the shade of that huge glipwood tree), what kind of music do you listen to? I like Andrew Peterson, Hillsong UNITED, Josh Garrels, Audrey Assad, Ross King, Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, etc.
I like the way you end your posts. Maybe I should try it.
Maker bless you (or “ye lad” instead of “you”, but since your two years older than me I won’t write that)! Talk to you later! Something like that.
January 7, 2017 at 11:31 am #11785
It’s cool that there are people coming straight from the Netherlands running around in South East Asia.
I just imagined that scene from Hobbit DOS, “And for that you would need a smuggler.” But instead of Bard there it being Oskar N. Reteep! LOL! A shame you haven’t read Princess Bride, the way that A.P. does his footnotes is a lot like the way that book does its humor & whimsey.
What kind of music do I listen to? As to music with singing? I listen to Andrew Peterson, Rich Mullins, Paul Wilbur, & Joshua Aaron. As well as the gratuitous Elvis Presley & Frank Sinatra, with Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong. I listen to older music when it’s not Christian. I also listen to a lot of old musicals. Rodgers & Hammerstein, Gilbert & Sullivan, those types of comedies. Also ones like Les Miserables (I was in a play of that one, a video of me singing in that is on Youtube somewhere or another), & the Phantom of the Opera. Speaking of which, Opera!
As for music with out singing? A lot of classical, big band, & jazz. And film scores. Lots of Film Scores. Since I watch more movies I know more composers, & by extension more music of awesomeness. I own all of the LOTR & Hobbit film scores. Hopefully at some point I can get a lot of John Williams & Hans Zimmer in the future.
I know I am kind of odd to be signing off in that way. But I used to listen to radio a lot. So I kinda got the whole sense of needing to end posts (broadcasts) with things of that sort. By the way it’s just fine for you to call me “ye lad” as I would probably call you “my young man.” The last one was Spiderman’s classic sign off, & the one before that was just a typical British way.
I think I am going to do something in Sindarin this time. Hmmm, let me look something up. Aha! Naevar na-den pedim ad mellon (Until we speak again dear friend) & farewell!
January 9, 2017 at 4:25 am #11805
Cool! Do you speak Elvish, or did you just look that up? I would like to learn Elvish, but Thai is enough at the moment.
I like soundtracks too. The only ones that I have are LotR, but I use Musi and Deezer and YouTube and the like to listen to Pirates of the Caribbean (no, I haven’t seen the movies, but my orchestra played a PotC – that’s a weird abbreviation – medley a couple years ago), How to Train your Dragon, and whatever movie I happen to have watched most recently.
You don’t have to tell me, but could I get your name so I can stop calling you ‘That one kid on the Wingfeather site’?
Adios amigo! No, that’s not right…. Auf wiedersehen! No, not that either…. สวัสดี. That’s better! You probably can’t read it though…. Oh, whatever. Goodbye! Talk to you later!
January 9, 2017 at 5:19 am #11806
No, I do not speak Sindarin or Quenya (sad face) but I am well versed in the letters of it.
Yup, soundtracks can be pretty rad. PotC was written by Klaus Blaudett & took a lot of pointers from Hans Zimmer’s Gladiator (awesome soundtrack) but it’s just a lot bouncier. Uses the same leitmotifs though. How to Train your Dragon (especially the 2nd one) is pretty rad! John Powell did that one didn’t he? He worked with Hans Zimmer on the Kung Fu Panda movies if I am not mistaken. I actually own the film score of HtTyD 2 because unlike most movies we actually saw that one in theaters & liked it a lot.
What, WhiteKnight111 is good enough for you?! Just kidding, my name is (drumroll please) Gabriel. A good old fashioned Hebrew name if I do say so myself. The boy in my profile picture is me about 9 years ago so if you want a picture of what I look like just age that up, make him a walking skeleton & give him some angst & acne for good measure. I am a teenager after all.
I know that this is something in Sindarin, but since it is early in the morning I am not going to look it up (remember I am a lazy bum, who gets up at 5:30 in the morning to check random forum posts with a guy in Thailand & do schoolwork). May the wings of the swan protect you (traditional blessing of Dol Amroth), Whiteknight111!
January 9, 2017 at 8:30 am #11807
Oops! I forgot tobyMac. His stuff is pretty good.
Are you watching the college football national championship? I would usually be screaming “Boomer Sooner!” but sadly Oklahoma didn’t make it to the championship this year.
Oh. “Lazy bum” means you get up at 5:30. In that case, I don’t even want to know what I am.
Speaking of acne, have you read the book “The Wave”? I mostly remember it because there’s this one scene where a teenager jumps up and yells “Give me liberty or give me acne!” And then late he explained that he figured “acne was worse than death”.
It’s a very interesting book. You should check it out.
Goodbye, and thank you for visiting “The Museum of Very Long Online Conversations”. Come again soon!
January 9, 2017 at 10:41 am #11808
Elia, this conversation is over. I refuse to respond to these anymore, this is farewell Sooner fan.
LOL. I am a Texas Longhorns (go horns go), mainly because my dad went to college there & my name is already in their fightsong so you know how it is. I don’t believe we’ll be able to watch the championship game since we don’t have cable. But I just hope Clemson wins & knock ‘Bama on their backside. I have not been a ‘Bama fan since 2008 when they knocked out Colt McCoy in the National Championship all the way back then. Yes I am still broken up about that. It makes it hard to because some of my family live in S. Carolina & are Clemson fans, but all that part of the family is from Alabama where mentioning Auburn in a positive light is considered heresy at best. Besides ‘Bama kicked out Washington (I was born in Seattle as you recall) so I have no reason to go for them at all, so go Clemson!
Yeah, I get up when my dad goes to work, so at the moment, he gets up at 5:30, so by extension so do I. Also internet is best those wee hours of the morning so there is some payoff.
I have heard of The Wave & people talking about it. Perhaps I should check it out. Anything for me to recommend? Let’s keep it simple today. Go read Henry V by Shakespeare. My favorite one of his by far. Then go watch Kenneth Branagh’s film version. I know I mention that guy a lot but he really is one of my favorites.
Ah, look there! Up in the sky! It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s schoolwork! Alas I must leave you. Until we meet again dear friend, hook ’em horns! WhiteKnight111.
January 11, 2017 at 9:38 am #11856
Sorry it’s been a while. I’m trying to finish my WWII studies by the end of next week, so I’ve been kind of busy.
This contains spoilers for the NCAAF National Championship game. If you are planning to watch it in record later, do not continue reading.
I was sort of going for Alabama, because they beat LSU, and I don’t like LSU, because I have a friend who doesn’t like OU that likes LSU. Okay, that was probably pretty confusing. Enough to say that I kind of like Alabama. But, it was a very exciting game, and I was glad for Clemson at the end. I think ‘Bama has enough national titles already anyway.
End of spoilers.
And… what else. I’m having trouble falling asleep because Mr. Peterson just posted a comment on my ‘100th Topic’ topic. Not just having trouble falling asleep, actually. More like trying not to scream.
What’s that in the sky? Is it sleep? No, of course not. Just the ceiling. And the sound of the pigeons walking around inside the cieling. We have this huge hole it our roof on the second floor, so we have pigeons living in there. And we have a hole in the downstairs roof, so a cat lives in there. We were trying to figure out how to get rid of it, but everyone we asked said if you don’t have a cat, you’re going to have snakes or rats or mice. I think I prefer the cat.
Well, good night. May you sleep long and- oh yeah, you aren’t going to sleep. May you day be productive and filled with, um, laughter? Goodnight/morning!
January 12, 2017 at 7:08 am #11858
Hey, sorry it’s been so long. I’ve been moving. So, with that out of the way, let us go on.
If you’re out in the country, I recommend you scream until your hearts content, doctor’s orders. Mr. A.P.’s comment is worth it. If you want to stay inside to scream, be my guest. What kind of pigeons do you have in Thailand? Where I have been across the U.S. (except for Chicago) we have mourning doves. Whipporwhill’s some call them. And you have a cat. That’s good since you live in a country where there are a lot of snakes and what not. But don’t tell my dog I said that. Her grace would order my licksecution.
So, speaking of dogs, do you have one? Or have you ever had one? I may be in & out since we are in the middle of a move, so you may not hear from me for a while.
Best wishes & blessings, WhiteKnight.
January 12, 2017 at 8:51 am #11859
Hmm… I’m not sure the old ladies in our neighborhood would appreciate me screaming at 2200. Maybe I’ll scream into a pillow.
I have no idea what kind of pigeons they are. Just pigeons. I’ve named them Pigeonus Roofus Noisyus, but I’m not sure that all scientists agree.
No I have not had a dog, and I don’t ever want to. Don’t get me wrong, some dogs are nice, but they take more work than I am willing to put into a pet, and I’ve had bad experiences with dogs.
Okay, wait. Having a dog like Baxter would be great. Maybe I can open a portal and go grab one of his puppies real quick…. Actually, chances are, if I opened a portal into Aerwiar I wouldn’t be coming back for a LONG time.
Where did you move to? And where did you move from? The cabin?
January 13, 2017 at 6:29 am #11870
Hah, that’s a good one about the old ladies man. Scream into that pillow all you like. I also understand about the pigeons. Some scientists are just woefully mistaken about more than just the T.H.A.G.S..
Bad experiences with dogs huh? My music teacher had that problem. Sorry about all that. I can get not wanting the extra responsibilities too I guess, but the payoffs are just so superior yes they are… Sorry, my dog appeared and was being superior and in all ways cute. Baxter’s puppies? I’m sold! Although I’d rather open a portal up underneath Nugget & save him (spoilers). And is it just me or would that be the ultimate way to open a TV show or movie? They’re at the Falls, you see Janner running, see Tink fire an arrow, & then (tracking backwards from in front of Janner) you see a Troll thud on the bridge. Janner gives that whole “we are officially dead” face, but then you hear Leeli yell. “Ahhh, Nugget!” Looking up from Janner you see this big black dog the size of a small house just leap over him & land on the bridge facing the troll. Nugget stands up on his two back paws & snarls, extending his paws in challenge & giving a massive bark as Leeli screams. Fade to black, the dog’s bark & the girl’s scream echo. Title screen. Jump back to Janner staring at a picture of his Father in a field of wheat Gladiator style at the beginning of OTEOTDSOD. Dang, that’s how you open a movie.
Sorry lost in thought. Yes, Aewiar! Take me with you! We can be road trip buddies, like old times, have some fun, have a few laughs. Elia the Bard & the White Knight! For the Win!
As for moving. I had said before that my dad had lost his job a few months back so we were no longer able to live in the parsonage that we had lived in for about 3 & a half years. However, some friends of ours allowed us to stay in their cabin while they’re away in Florida, this is where I am writing you from now. We’ve been here for about a month. However (once more) we just got a lease on a house about 45 minutes from where we currently are so we are moving there to actually have it for ourselves. Hope that clears things up.
Anyway, with the powers of the raggant & mad cabinetry combined, see you in Aewiar Elia Tyson!
January 14, 2017 at 8:13 am #11873
Bard, huh? Maybe more of a librarian’s apprentice. Hopefully my grandpa never comes to visit. He would jump and yell every time Madame Sidler said “Can I help you?”
Hmm…. That movie beginning sounds cool, at least for the people who have read the book. Kind of a spoiler for those who haven’t. I think they should have a flashback to Gnag the Nameless taking over the world nine years before. Or maybe have part of the stories told in the interludes in WatWK. Either way.
Hope your move goes well!
I’ve dreamed of getting dumped into Aerwiar with a few of my friends for yea- well, months, anyway. I read the Saga only a little over a year ago. I’m kind of glad I didn’t discover it earlier; I would have gone crazy waiting for WatWK. Back to getting dumped in Aerwiar. I’d definitely need a sword, and probably a bow and arrow, too. Then we could find a creek, hunt for a few flabbits or meeps or diggles or whatever happens to be around. After a few days, hopefully we could find a town, and figure out where the Wingfeathers are. Or maybe go try and get together some people to storm the Fork! Factory! depending on when we got there.
What do you want to do?
See you in Aerwiar! I’ll have a flabbit roasting over the fire for you when you get there.
January 24, 2017 at 8:19 pm #11985
Oy my gosh 10 days without Internet. Ugh, I feel terrible. I am sorry I have not seen your reply or reply to the said reply until now my dear Elia, & I hope you haven’t given up on me as a lost cause.
We moved well, we are nigh on all settled in with the arrival of internet. So now, my dear Elia, we may at long last continue. Is it just me or does that sound like a girl’s opening? “And now my dear Elia…” Any way I’ve written it before so I am going to keep it going.
I get the idea of being a librarian’s apprentice, but I would also like to be in the boatery & the sailery myself (even though I have a somewhat consuming fear of sharks, though not to the point of an incapacitating phobia, however I have never exactly been swimming with one so that point remains to be seen).
I too have dreamed of being dumped into Aerwiar, however in addition to the supplies mentioned above I must say that I would like to bring my Bible, LOTR, & maybe a few other books. Imagine Oskar’s delight at having books from another dimension! It would be… A Close Encounter of the Third Kind?!
Just watched Christopher Nolan’s “Inception” the other night again. Great movie. Me & my dad really feel that it is a really good philosophical & theological answer to the worldview posed in The Matrix. We can talk about that more latter if you’re interested. Speaking of going to Aewiar, this movie poses an excellent riddle. ” You’re waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don’t know for sure. But it doesn’t matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?” Ugh, the chills man. Definitely one we’d have to marathon together.
Anyway, since I haven’t talked to you in a while, (& it is fast approaching time for me to be asleep, I have a weeks worth of Algebra awaiting me in the morning), I will stick to an old outro.
Hope to keep talking to you more, Elia Tyson.
January 25, 2017 at 8:34 am #11987
Hooray! The White Knight returns! Glad your move went well.
Ah. Of course. Books. The problem is, there is a limit to how many books you can carry around in a pack. Maybe I should bring my Kindle instead.
Speaking of books, someone needs to write a book that ties together The Chronicles of Narnia and The Wingfeather Saga and The Lord of the Rings and The Firebird Trilogy and the book I am currently writing called “The Dragonkeeper Saga”. I think it would be amazing to discover that Aslan and the Maker and Illuvitar and the Mighty Singer and the Creator and God are all the same person; a person who made many worlds (Hebrews 1:2).
Actually, Narnia sort of already did that at the end of The Last Battle.
I wonder what Oskar would think of LOTR and Narnia? And even weirder, Sci-Fi books like Ender’s Game or The Giver?
Algebra 1 or 2? I may have asked before and forgot, but do you like math?
Goodbye for now, White Knight. I have books to write, portals to test, and dragons to ride. Talk to you again soon!
January 25, 2017 at 8:34 pm #11992
“The Knight & the Library Man were thrown up on the shores of the distant land with no knowledge of where they were or what had befallen them. One was dedicated to the spreading of knowledge through books, the other of the protection of said knowledge by what ever means he saw fit… Which was by the sword that was given to him. They had no grasp of why it was they that fate had chosen to throw of their many companions on to shore, but they knew it was not wise to ask why. As the pair made their way inland, they often thought of their families, & the lives that might have been lived by them both. But though each made assurances to the other daily of their survivals to live those lives, both knew in their hearts that there was no way in which to return in such a way that these lives could be lived in such that way, & both were inwardly convinced of their inevitable demise.”
Sorry something I thought should be written concerning ourselves & our visits to unknown world. A little dramatized I’ll admit but it does sound like the opening to a good story if I do say so myself.
I personally think that Oskar would weep at the end of LOTR, I think he would see CoN as a clear allegory of The Maker & other worlds he has made, but I don’t know what he would do with modern Sci-Fi. That Inception film that I mentioned would definitely go way over his head, & I am sure Ender’s Game would too.
Algebra 2, I have an interesting school history. I am Sophmore in High School. What are you? I skipped 2 grades, Kindergarten & 6th, but my mother quote “wasn’t ready for a High School Student” even though she had taught in public high school in downtown Memphis TN in her mid twenties. So I was resorted to stay in 8th grade for 3 years straight, even though I passed every year. So if mom hadn’t held me back I would be a Senior right now. I have been homeschooled every year of my life except for 3rd grade where I was sent to a private Christian school in Illinois which was an overall good thing, because it kind off took away my snobby “I’m a homeschooler so I am automatically better than ever one” mentality (even though I was taking both 6th grade history at the same time & acing them both). OK I lied, I am still a snob on somethings. Not the Brittish snob you see in the movies, but I just don’t like some things & I really think they are stupid & inferior, like store bought salsa. As for math, I despise it though I have grown increasingly better at it. I do not like computers either, & I barely know how to run the PC I am writing you on (see the fact I still run Computer games from the 90’s & early 2000’s) so your programming skills wow me. I know just about as much of technology as my grandparents (on my mom’s side). This might have something to do with the fact that in private school I skipped out on Computer class to go to 6th grade History but I’ll let you decide.
Farewell Elia Tyson, I too have books to write, portals to test, & (conversely) dragons to slay. Is it just me or is one of the greatest mysteries of our time the fact there has not been a significant rise in the dragon population in concurrence with the constantly decreasing numbers of knights? Just me though.
May the grace of Eru Illuvatar go with thee, & may Vingilot be the ship of your passing, & may the Simaril be on your brow.
January 27, 2017 at 10:18 pm #11999
Oh, & Madame Sidler, I don’t know about Elia across the way there, but this doesn’t have to be an exclusively teenage boys club. Feel free to chime in any time you want. And if you know anyone else who’s as crazy as us, send ’em our way! We’d love to talk to other amiable people who think as in depth of these things as we do (correct me if you want this to be a one on one thing Elia). Don’t get me wrong, what we got here is great & as good a digital friendship & conversation/discussion/updates of life/random fanfiction as you can find on the interwebs between a couple of teen guys a Pacific apart, but we are not therefore prejudiced against everyone else.
I like being able to just talk to you Elia, but I also don’t want to leave out other young (and young at heart) people who see deep into this stuff (& life) like us from coming & talking to the 2 of us. Tell me if you disagree.
Anyway, this is WhiteKnight111 with a random thought. Thanks & Write Well!
January 27, 2017 at 10:42 pm #12000
Of course! If anyone else wants to talk, too, that’s fine.
January 31, 2017 at 10:47 pm #12033
Thank you guys! I’m glad to be officially invited. I do enjoy lurking and knowing you two are having fun, though. 🙂
January 30, 2017 at 7:11 pm #12021
I’m sorry it’s taken me so long to respond to this. I was at Bag End, then I was in Lopburi (where we used to live), then I was starting school again.
I like that story! We should make a book out of it. And we could discover some new animals and creat a new Creaturpedia.
I’m doing Geometry (I haven’t done Algebra 2 yet) and I’m a freshman. I did first grade when I was four, but then my parents changed the curriculum and I did it again. That was probably a good thing. I figure I probably get more out of school if I don’t rush ahead.
Hmm, yes. It would seem that there should be more dragons around nowadays. Of course, in places like Aerwier and Middle Earth there are plenty. I’m still testing that portal. The closest I’ve gotten was while I was when my brother accidentally activated it while I was reading the Wingfeather Saga. I could almost see the Killridge mountains….
Fare thee well, oh knight! Good luck with your book writing and portal testing. And make sure all of the dragons that you kill are the evil sort. I know a few that aren’t.
January 31, 2017 at 9:52 am #12027
Ah, Bag End, what a relaxing piece of scenery, full of beautiful gardens, fountains, & most of all, Hobbiton’s worlds famous nightlife, the Green Dragon & Co. I was away on a humanitarian mission rebuilding Edoras & Tharbad while you were off galavanting in the Shire! (Sniffles). Thanks for remembering me!
Yeah I figured you were just off doing something like that. So, you liked my writing!? Awesome! It would make an awesome story, but what would be the themes? Time, I think should be one of them. How it cannot be wasted, how it cannot be lost, how valuable it is. How important it is to spend Time with those we love. Time yes, what do you propose? Where do you see the story going? Did we really land up in Aewiar, or in some other place in the Woods beyond the Worlds? And if we did land in Aewiar, did we land in Skree or Dang or some completely unknown part of it? Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries. It would be pretty awesome for us to collaborate together on a story like this. We share top billing of course, just because I wrote the first lines doesn’t mean that our names can’t be next to each others.
Glad you’ve gotten something out of school. What courses do you take? I took Geometry in Freshman Year too. Right now I take Algebra 2, Chemistry, Latin, Hebrew, & Omnibus (Honors in History, Theology & Literature). I hope to get into Economics, & if I can more Geography.
I indeed have been working on a portal, more of Stargate themed one myself. I have been hoping to go to any world that I can find, and I have ordered a specially made cabinet from a reliable source.
I shall speak to you soon O Library Man! O Elia Tyson!
January 31, 2017 at 10:14 am #12028
I actually did go to Bag End. There’s a hotel several hours from where I live that’s made to look like Bag End. It was so cool! The mailbox was the same, the gate was the same, the door was round, the ceiling was curved, everything!
I kind of imagined us getting mixed up with the Wingfeathers, either before their adventures (in which case we would have to have lost some of our memory) or afterwards. Either way would be fun, though since we’re not sure what happened to Janner I think I would prefer before, even though it would be dangerous.
Hmm, let me think. I’m taking Church History, Thai, Geometry, Biology, Piano (sort of; I don’t have a teacher), Violin (my A string snapped and I still haven’t found a new one), and Bible.
Omni! Cool! I took Omni last year and learned about Ancient Greece and Rome. Which one are you doing?
In the words of Oskar N. Reteep himself, “Good gravy!” It’s past eleven on a school night! I’m afraid I spent a little to much time reading Orson Scott Card’s How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy (recommended by Mr. Peterson in the forward to Wingfeather Tales).
Looking forward to developing more of our story! And I hope you cupboard works. I’m off to the lands of mystery and wonder (otherwise known as sleep). After brushing my teeth, of course. Goodbye!
January 31, 2017 at 11:14 am #12029
wait Elia, did you go to new zealand and go to hibbiton? I always wanted to go.
Is this a book club. Just heard it mentioned. I miss so much that happens on bords that sudenly get large like this one. Sorry for the spelling.
January 31, 2017 at 7:06 pm #12030
No. It’s just a hotel here in Thailand.
February 1, 2017 at 10:36 am #12042
Come to Bag End, where you can enjoy our world famous spas, experience the night life, or simply enjoy second breakfast by the poolside. Dude it rocks that you were able to go to Bag End, even if it wasn’t in New Zealand but it rocks!
I think that we would come out before the Saga as well, I mean there are 3 complete epochs of history before that so anything could happen. (Time!)
Church history is awesome! I took that in 5th grade. Thai should be pretty cool. I took geometry and biology last year. I’ve done Omnibus for the last 4 years, (counting this one) so I’m on Greek history again.
As for your question Madame Sidler, I am glad that you find Hebrew your favorite, it is a really cool language. It goes from right to left, like Arabic but unlike any others that I can think of off the top of my head. It has 24 letters unlike us. Two of which are silent. Hebrew letters count both as numbers, & also as picture letters. It is fascinating, & if you want to get into it I certainly recommend it. It doesn’t apply to our language as much as Latin, but it certainly does more than I expected. In other news, I have been told by several Jews, (actual Jews not just Messianic goy Jews like me & mine) that I would be an amazing canter.
I too wish to improve our story. It does make me think a lot about sleeping out under the stars with a Vietnamese guy across an ocean in another world. That sounded weird but I wrote so it’s staying. Maybe we should be chess to this world? Just a thought.
Well, I must say farewell. Goodbye Elia, Madame Sidler, I must away!
February 1, 2017 at 12:15 pm #12043
In retrospect I failed to define the one Hebrew word I used, goy. So Hebrew lesson number 1. Goy is a word for Gentile, & Gentile things, typically in a derogatory way. So by calling myself a Goy Jew, I was basically insulting myself. Fun lesson? Yeah! Glad you enjoyed my insult of myself.
Anyway, I actually now have school to get to. Hebrew in fact. Getting on to the Niphal stem, one of the 7 stems of verbs in Hebrew. Talk to you’uns later. Bye!
February 2, 2017 at 7:45 pm #12056
I’m sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner. I’ve been reading Orson Scott Card’s How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy (recommended in the forward to Wingfeather Tales). Some of the examples he gives are weird (because it’s OSC) but I’m enjoying it.
Maybe we get dumped on a deserted island in the Dark Sea and get picked up by Eremund! Something kind of Voyage of the Dawn Treader-ish going on there. Then we help him rescue his sister, and I get to figure out why in the world there is a completely different royal family thriteen years after Eremund’s adventure.
Well, it is getting on towards 09:00 and I believe I must start school. Talk to you again soon!
January 31, 2017 at 10:44 pm #12032
Hebrew!!! My favorite! Pray tell us all about it!
February 1, 2017 at 3:11 pm #12044
WhiteKnight, my students are learning Niphal right now, too. 🙂 (I don’t teach as such, but I tutor.) Starting Hebrew was intimidating for me, because as you said it doesn’t seem to correspond to English at all, but once I got started I also discovered that it felt less foreign than I was afraid it would.
Did you know that goy originally just meant “nation” or “people”? It’s even used in scripture for the nation of Israel, like in Genesis 12, where God tells Abram that He will make Abram’s descendants into a great nation of blessing for all the families of the earth. But it is usually used to distinguish Israel from other nations, and that’s why it’s used to mean non-Israelites (Gentiles) today. It’s sad that it’s often used in a derogatory sense, but I can certainly understand why. The Jewish people have had a very hard history where other nations are concerned.
It would be so cool to hear you chant. My professor chants, and I have a book (overdue!) about cantillation marks, but I have only the tiniest familiarity with how it works.
Are you reading anything in the Tanak right now? My students are in Jonah. I am in 1 Samuel.
January 12, 2017 at 9:12 am #11860
Elia, I don’t think anyone would be on here if they were not obsesed with the serries:-)
January 12, 2017 at 9:14 am #11861
Sorry I was reading from the top
But I agree with the Portal
January 25, 2017 at 3:58 pm #11990
Elia, i agree with conbining the books . That would be awesome
January 31, 2017 at 10:49 pm #12034
February 2, 2017 at 9:28 am #12051
I’m not learning hebrew but I’m learning welsh germon and hope to start zwahili soon.
sorry for the spelling
February 2, 2017 at 8:43 pm #12057
I’m really enjoying just skimming through this post and seeing people connect and love each other well! You rock, Iggy Feathered fans!
February 2, 2017 at 11:51 pm #12071
By the way, I think this topic officially took the title of “Largest Topic in the Ban Rona Book Club” recently. Thanks for the fun (and very, very long) conversation WhiteKnight!
February 4, 2017 at 9:34 am #12086
Yeah boy! Longest topic for the win! With our powers combined… We’d make the perfect team! The same bro. It’s been awesome fun & a great conversation with you (the great conversations are oft the longest ones after all). We need to thank you as well Madame Sidler, for moving this on to it’s own thread leaving us free to rant about what ever we wanted. And we have I would say. And we greatly appreciate your comments as well let’s not leave you out.
Sorry it took me so long to come back Elia, yesterday was test day so I was kinda involved with other things. In better news I found a great remix of Hans Zimmer’s Time, & it rocked all through test day. Glad you’re enjoying a new book! After my tests my dad came home with a book I’ve been waiting for for a long time, “Crater Trueblood & the Lunar Rescue Company” by Homer Hickam. That’s going to be awesome. Probably should find a remix of Zimmer’s Interstellar for that one though.
Well, I wouldn’t want to go into Aewiar & interact with the characters or the storylines that we already know. I would want it to be in an unknown part of it & full of it’s own stories & lore. Perhaps this is because I have the world of the Eremiad mapped out in my head, maybe because I have always hated stories that interject characters that have no historical basis in to major historical events or being mainstays to really important people. Except for you McFly, you get a free pass. But hey, maybe the reason we have a new dynasty is because you marry the princess & so there’s a name change. All good things must come to a middle.
As for Madame Sidler, yes I did no that about the word Goy. I take biblical not modern Hebrew. So I get a lot of the older meanings for words. I am one of those people who read through the Torah every year, so the Parashat that we were on this week was Bo, when God’s people leaving Egypt. I cannot as of yet read the canters marks, but I can listen, & then when I sing I can get a really deep voice so that I can get really good on the tunes and what not.
So, I saw your Flabbit Room post Elia, really gonna have to get on that when I come back from Shabbat Service. Anyway, this is WhiteKnight, & I am OUTTATIME!
February 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm #12203
We have a weekly Torah reading at my school, which means our readings are in line with yours. 🙂 We just do a few verses of each parashah, though. That way we have time to practice reading from the scroll (without the vowel markings—tricky!) and our professor can give us a devotional. Today we read a few verses of Yitro. I love knowing that you’re doing this too. 🙂
February 17, 2017 at 8:04 am #12339
Yeah, it is great knowing that other people are reading Torah as well. Ashkenazi readings, right? Those are Jews from main land Europe btw. Awesome that you have an actual scroll. I would want to get my hands on one if I ever could. I have held one & have read from it, but I really wish I had one for myself. We read the whole Torah portion, the Haftorah, & the Brit Chadashah together as a family on Shabbat Evening Fiddler on the Roof style. We’ll be in Yitro this week as you are. Nice to know about that Madame Sidler. Question. Would there be a form of like, heavily revered & respected scroll in the library at Ban Rona? Not like scripture, but ancient knowledge that has been handed down through the years. I know there are the First Books, but are there any scrolls or loose pages that would be revered?
February 4, 2017 at 10:02 am #12087
Hans Zimmer! He did some stuff on the Pirate’s of the Caribbean soundtrack, right? I listen to the PotC soundtrack whenever I’m trying to write an exciting part of a book.
I’ll have to check that book out. What’s it about? I like most sci-fi that I read, but I can’t find much that is appropriate. Tell me how it is! (Am I the only one, or is anyone else thinking that Mr. Peterson should write a science fiction story? Maybe even set in Aerwiar, thousands of years after The Wingfeather Saga! That would be kind of odd, but then you wouldn’t have to worry about actual rules of science, because you are in another universe! Maybe this should have been a whole paragraph instead of a note in parentheses….)
Marry the princess!!?? I’m not sure if I was planning on staying that long…. I mean, it would be cool to live in Aerwiar, but I’ve got family and good friends here that I don’t want to leave. Of course, I would probably make good friends there, too, that I wouldn’t want to leave. Maybe I should just take everyone I know with me. That should solve the problem.
Speaking of moving around like that, have you read A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court? That book was hilarious. Knights on bicycles, telephones in ancient Europe, that sort of thing.
If we did write a book like that, wouldn’t it be interesting to both write our own character, so that we could have actual dialogue instead of one author writing both sides of the discussion? And we could work together as to what we actually do, and where the story goes, but it would be interesting to actually have two people talking. I think it would give a new layer of depth to the book.
I am so excited about The Flabbit Room! I can’t wait to start discussing books with other authors. Thanks again Mr. Peterson and Madame Sidler for letting me use the forum!
Talk to you later, White Knight, my fellow traveler to distant universes!
February 4, 2017 at 9:14 pm #12090
Yes! Hans Zimmer, my man, is the next John Williams. Seriously he is that good. He did the latter PotC after the first one. He’s also done the Christopher Nolan films (my favorite Director) since Batman Begins, so that’s 6 films of awesome score under Nolan. He did Gladiator & Pearl Harbor as well if you’ve listened to those. Heck, I’m sending you the remix I was listening to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05LG-Fnq6lI) & the original one by Zimmer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db21NA71gTg). The feels man. When that music kicks in at the ending, holy cow. Oh for heaven’s sake take “Dream is Collapsing” from the same film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vb8wdfngy4) as well. Gosh what a great movie (Inception that is). Only thou Nolan, only thou could create such genius!
Yeah, get that about not finding good sci-fi books. Homer Hickam (the guy that wrote the aforementioned book series I’m finishing) was a coal miner in WV during the space race. They made a movie about him that your parents have probably heard of, October Sky. Anyway he & some of his buddies began engineering homemade rockets back in the 60’s & he wen on to work for NASA, & some of his designs got men on the moon from what I understand. His series is really good & realistic, & are based on life on the lunar surface. Sort of an adventure love story type of thing. No where near A.P. or Tolkien but it’s still a pretty good story. If you want some thing really dark but really good and rich, read Frank Herbert’s Dune from the 60’s. Really really dark, so if you’ve never gotten into Star Wars I wouldn’t get into this one probably, but it is one of the most famous Sci-Fi novels of all time with a really unique plot.
Hey man, if we get our hands on one of those cabinets, we could totally bring the whole family through, & anything else we wanted. So yeah, bring the fam, marry the Princess, & name me Hand of the King. And we would be awesome.
And yes! Connecticut Yankee by Twain is one of my favorites! It is so hilarious when he starts naming off presidents & states as “magic words.”
Dude, that idea about us writing our own dialogue would be beyond meta. Let’s go with it! So, should what should we do in terms of set up, how should we discuss? I am going to set up a chat on the forum at Flabbit Room to begin, but what do we do from there? I think that at some point we should try to get on at about the same time, so we can just sit & type back and forth. Of course we should stay on this thread here, but for the actual writing I think we should go over to Flabbit Room.
And by the by, love that new profile pic bro! The Hand of the King, Gabriel, First of his names of the Houses Reed, Dickerson, Adcock, Shaver, & Whitehead, Second of my name of House Herron. By the Power invested in me by Elia of the Houses Tyson & Wingfeather, I hence forth declare you awesome! Later!
February 5, 2017 at 1:07 am #12092
I’ve heard of Dune before, but I never looked into it. It sounds good. And actually I’ve never seen Star Wars, so I don’t know whether or not I would get into it.
I’m still not sure about marrying the princess…. Anyway, I would have to change my name to Bormand Quickfoot. I think I like Elia Tyson better. I am, excitited about our trip, though. We should definitely start a thread on the Flabbit Room. We can help each other decide what happens and take turns writing different parts. We should probably try to decide on a writing style, though, because it would be kind of weird to keep switching over and over. And then when we’re done we can compile it into one document. And we can publish a version that has all the conversation between us. That would be interesting.
I have a feeling, though, that the story is going to end with a tragedy. Something happens to Eremund and his family and another family, maybe from Anniera and maybe from the Green Hollows (what if Nia and Esben were both descended from the same family?) will have to take over the kingdom.
See you over at the Flabbit Room White Knight, collector of cupboards!
February 7, 2017 at 11:00 am #12116
Oy my gosh, finally getting back to you! Reads last few posts… OK, ready to begin again!
So yeah, Dune. It is essentially (in my humble opinion) the darkest sci-fi book out there. They made a movie of it in the 80’s which was decent, & had one of the best themes ever. But yeah, the film (as they tend to do) was on the whole a lot lighter & more of a happy ending than the actual book. Still pretty awesome though.
What?! Bormand Quickfoot doesn’t sit well with you? I thought you’d love that name. I was going to suggest something awesome like Eomund or Adrahil or Glorfindel but you know, books must be books.
Yeah, I kind of already had a tragedy in mind for the story when I was writing it solo. There would be four kids, Eremund, the Princess, the Song Maiden, & Adrian the Lorewain, who would (after the princess’ abduction & Eremund’s disappearance) becomes the Grey King. I’ll fill you in on the details about that later I guess. He’s not going to be a bad guy, but he just takes power that he shouldn’t & kind of becomes a messiah figure to pretty much all of Aewiar & it backfires on him. To be honest I did more work with Adrian than I really did with Eremund because he is such a good character in my head.
I don’t know what kind of writing styles we would have, as I have been influenced by different things than you & vice versa. Let me tell you the two main ways I write. The first way I write is a flowery tragic sort of way, mainly influenced by Tolkien & Shakespeare. The second way is kind of a stoic “way things are” kind of a way, based off of old Westerns (specifically Sergio Leone) & Hemmingway. I am good at writing dialogue, characters, & descriptons. I am decent at romance, but the happier moments & the action sequences I am not that good at. I seriously should read your book to get a handle on your style. But for brevity’s sake give me a quick run down of yours.
See you in the Flabbit Room too!
February 7, 2017 at 6:54 pm #12122
What if Eremund was gone for several years, and while he was gone something happened to the rest of his family, and someone else took over while he was gone? That would open up a lot of extra stuff after he gets back; trying to sort out who is going to rule the kingdom. Just an idea. I think I like yours a little better.
What is my writing style? I have no idea. I believe it’s a combo of Andrew Peterson, Tolkien, Lewis, Kathy Tyers, Trenton Lee Stewart, Suzanne Collins, and a little of just about every other author I’ve read. Maybe for the purposes of this book, I should stick with the more Peterson-Tolkien-Lewis style, which sounds like it might be sort of similar to yours.
One of the most fun writing styles ever, is that of Ollister B. Pembrick. Check out this thread.
Well, I saw that you left a post over on the new thread at the Flabbit Room, so I’m off! Goodbye!
February 9, 2017 at 10:18 am #12145
Yeah, that’s kind of what I have in mind. But the long story short of it is that when Eremund & the Princess return, enough time has passed so that people assume that they are both dead, events happen that lead to the Song Maiden’s death (the regent of the realm) & nearly all of Aewiar had accepted Adrian’s rule. And of course he dies in the Battle of the Six Fleets but that is another story. Personally I think that the Pirates who kidnapped the Princess had been hired by Ouster Will. So there is that. But no, Eremund & the Princess would essentially return to find their family in ruins when they return, but the policies put in place by Adrian would make the Princess more than just the Queen, but they would make her the High Queen, it would make the Green Hollows a protectorate of the Shining Isle, & had placed Anniera back at the forefront of World Politics, where it had faded into obscurity before hand.
Anyway, seriously I am going to describe a bit more on the other thread since if I don’t communicate with you about what I see for the story than it’s kind of a moot point.
That’s a nice style you got there, keep it up! And by the way I saw that you like Redwall on another thread there. Awesome! Those books are amazing! Got some plot holes, but still!
In other news, I finally had a talk with my younger cousin (by 2 weeks) from Illinois, had a great time. It’s kind off weird knowing that the people you are friends with the most are hours away from you. We were raised really differently but I see sparks of myself in him every time. It’s awesome. Anyway, see you on the other thread Elia Tyson!
February 10, 2017 at 2:08 am #12155
Yes, I’ve read Redwall. I actually read all 20-something of them. They were good, but I don’t read them much anymore.
I like your story ideas. See you over on the other thread!
February 10, 2017 at 10:41 am #12161
I have read all of the redwall books many times. I’m a huge fan of them and if you have not read them you should.
February 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm #12413
Oy, my gosh I haven’t been on here in days. I feel awful! I’ve been reading your book Elia, (although I have not read as much as I would like) & I see that this is a first attempt. It reminds me a lot of my own writing style from a few years back although I have come a long way since then. This has nothing to do with our story but I hope it gives you a little bit more of an idea of what my writing style is like. My more Spartan style anyway. I wrote it a few months back for a writing contest (no it didn’t win) & I have never really shared it though I love its ambiguity. Here you go!
My lips were dry. They had been for days. The sun beat down mercilessly. The Old Books say that there will be a time when the sun and moon were not needed, for the light of the God of the Jews will be all that is necessary. For my own sake I hoped that this would be soon. We had no shade since our sail had been ripped off 2 days ago.
“How much water do we have left,” I asked.
The Sevillian looked down at the water. “A little more than half a cup.”
His face was getting blistered badly. Judging from the pain in my own face, I probably was as well.
Raullings’ body was wasting away. He died sometime in the storm. The Sevillian was for pushing him over, seeing as we wasted most of the water from the tempest in trying to revive him. But I wasn’t about to let my friend’s body slip from the ship and into the grasp of the fishes yet.
“You know he’s in a better place right,” the Sevillian said.
“He better be, for all that talk of loyalty & God, Scriptures and everything else,” I said staring at the cross that still hung from the neck of our former companion.
“He’s dead weight, we should push him over,” the Sevillian restated as he strained at the oars.
“I already told you that we’re not going to do that,” I spat over the side.
“Don’t play the white knight, and you don’t feel his weight like I do. We are wasting precious supplies because of him,” he heaved back again.
“I pull my weight just as much as you do, so shut it.”
I could see the frustration in his eyes. He had been pulling for two hours, he would give out before long, & then I would have to pull at the oars for as long as I could.
I looked back at our map, & then up at the sun. I made a small jot on our course.
“How much farther is it,” he asked.
“We should be there late tomorrow night.”
“I’m for pushing on, I don’t care how long I have to pull,” the Sevillian said.
“You’re tired as it is, and I doubt you could get your strength back by the time I keel over. We rest tonight. And besides we could miss the Canari entirely during the dark. We wouldn’t be able to see the map at all,” the noise of the oars continued to thump the waters. The sun had already descended half way down across the sky plain. Stars were beginning to show themselves. Stars we never would have seen if we had not been on our little sailing adventure. The electrical lights that we had left largely blocked out our night vision.
To the east lay the Canari. I was still a little unsure of the place. The Moretti’s’ were the chief government there, men closely aligned with the Caribbean Alliance.
Neither of us had ever been there. However, the Moretti’s’ were closely allied with the Sevillians against the second Umayyad Caliphate, so we were banking on the Sevillian getting us through. Not that that was very solid, considering a lot of “ifs” hung in the plan.
“You’re tired,” I said looking back at my comrade. “I am going to lower the sounding line, then I’ll take your place.”
The Sevillian nodded, then stood up after I had made the drop. It did not hit the bottom. No matter, it probably would in the morning.
I sat down between the oars. I pulled until nightfall when I collapsed between the floorboards.
The Sevillian poured some water down my throat. “There mi amigo, that shall do you for now.” I vaguely heard him have a few small sips, then set the water down. I heard the jangle of a chain.
Raullings’ cross was pressed into my hands. “May his God rest him.” I heard the Sevillian say.
I breathed out an echo, “May his God rest him.” For the first time in 51 days, I did not toss that night. Sleep truly is blessed.
Anyway, hope you enjoyed that & get a little bit more of my writing style. Sorry I haven’t written in so long. Cheers!
February 22, 2017 at 7:39 pm #12415
Ha! That’s hilarious. That short story is what my writing style used to be, but I dropped it for a Kathy Tyers/Suzanne Collins style when I decided to write a Sci-Fi book.
Just how far into my book are you, exactly? After about the fifth chapter, it improves a lot, but there are still a few problems (such as chapter twelve and chapter sixteen). I would like to go back and fix them, but I figure I’m just going to want to do the same again a year from now, so I might as well just start something new.
I like your story, by the way. Except for the missing question marks. What happened to them?
February 27, 2017 at 10:09 am #12443
Ahem, excuse me. Sorry about that.
I was just watching some old Virgin Galactic videos (space company based in New Mexico or Arizona, not sure which). If you are WhiteKnight, I’m going to start calling myself “SpaceShipOne”.
February 28, 2017 at 9:37 am #12459
I haven’t been able to read anymore of your book sadly. Or get on here at all. A lot of school & ministry related stuff I’m afraid. I shall continue reading your book once I finish Aristotle’s Poetics.
Wonder what it would be like to try and explain a spaceship to some one in Aerwiar (the moment your brain freezes & you forget how to spell “Aerwiar” am I right). For LOTR it would be fairly simple, just say it was something like Vinglot (Earendil’s ship). Bye the Bye, (punch me if I’m missing something) is that a reference to Battlestar Galactica or just something else entirely?
I will attempt to post over on the other thread when I can. Sorry I haven’t been getting back to you.
Your still living pal,
February 28, 2017 at 8:44 pm #12467
Hey, no problem. I’ve been pretty busy, too. Well, not exactly busy, I suppose, just highspeedinternetless. That’s an interesting word I just made up.
Yes, you are spelling Aerwiar correctly. Just remember: Here we are. Remove spaces: Hereweare. Change the H to an A and remove the second e: Aerweare. Change the second E to an I and remove the last E: Aerwiar.
Okay, that took longer than I thought. Never mind. Just try to remember how to spell it.
I have never heard of Battlestar Galactica, so I don’t know. The name sounds cool.
Have you seen any of the Virgin Galactic vids? They have this really cool system, where the spaceship (the first one was called SpaceShipOne, I think the newest one is called Unity) is strapped to an airplane-thing (it’s actually like two airplanes, one on either side of the spacecraft, connected by a long pole-thing that also holds the spaceship) called WhiteKnight (the newest one is WhiteKnight2 – I wonder how long it will take them to get to WhiteKnight111?). Then WhiteKnight takes off, after it gets to a good height it drops SpaceShipOne, which then flies on to space.
Okay, just ignore all of that and go watch the video.
Talk to you more soon!
March 2, 2017 at 12:24 pm #12481
Dude, this has nothing to do with the previous conversation but just wanted to share some stuff. So me & my family just went out to a thrift store the other day, & I picked up 7 books! For 8 bucks! A steal if there ever was one. And a cassette tape of old Sean Connery James Bond is included in there so yeah, good buy.
Besides the Bond music I picked up a 1973 dictionary (mainly because it had an index showing the meaning of names, never have managed to top the old one from the 1910’s though, I lost it when we lost our last pastorship & had to give back to the church), an encyclopedia of American dog breeds for my sister (thick one too), Helen Keller (also for my sister), Tom Clancy’s The Hunt For Red October (if you’ve never seen the film I highly recommend it, the score for that is through the roof, another Sean Connery film now that I think about it), a book on House Hapsburg, Rob Roy, & the last few months of Joseph Goebbels’ diary. When I have the time I’m gonna be having some fun for a while.
Anyway, concerning our above discussion (sorry I got new books & I’m geeking out), I have never heard of Virgin Galactic but I have heard of the WhiteKnight & Spaceship1. Cool, I wasn’t even thinking of that.
Battlestar Galactica is a sci-fi TV show from the 80’s. Brilliant initial premise & design, that kind of ran down hill as the show went on as 80’s shows tend to. That & it was written by a mormon. But yeah, if you want to see a good initial storyline & pretty sleek designs, go watch the first couple of episodes. So say we all! BTW I know they made a remake of the show in the early 2000’s but pretty much the exact same thing could be said about it. But they both shared the awesome theme song.
Anyway, hope to talk to you more Elia, pilot of SpaceShipOne, Libraryman.
WhiteKnight111! Like twin spaceships, away!
March 2, 2017 at 8:52 pm #12482
Seven books for eight bucks?! Man I miss thrift stores… I just got one book for eight bucks. It was good, though. Earth Awakens by Orson Scott Card and Aaron Johnston.
Enjoy your boo- oof! My stomach is protesting the fact that I haven’t eaten breakfast, but Mom says the cookie bars will be done in five minutes. (I doubt my stomach is going to like those either, but my taste buds certainly will.)
Well, goodbye for now! Enjoy your books!
March 2, 2017 at 9:05 pm #12483
I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging but at the thrift store that we go to most of the books are fifty cents. It’s so nice since books are almost the only thing I get there.
March 3, 2017 at 8:35 am #12485
Yeah, they were 99 cents on the counter. Amazingly cheap.
March 8, 2017 at 9:03 am #12524
Hey Elia, sorry I haven’t spoken for a while, I have a question. Would you mind if I shoot you about 60000 words? Pdf file of course. I haven’t really been getting much out of writing my book recently & I need a fresh set of eyes to see if there are any problems, or even just to say whether or not I should keep going. My mom loves it, but what else can she say she’s mom. Would it be too much trouble?
March 8, 2017 at 8:40 pm #12539
Sure! How far into the story are you? It’s already 8,000 longer than the longest thing I’ve written. Did you want to send it out to everyone at the Flabbit Room or just me?
March 9, 2017 at 9:28 am #12551
I wouldn’t mind sending it out to everyone, although it would be with the understanding that it would be a closed beta type of thing. Let me send it to you first & then (based on your critical review) I could put on the forums somehow.
I am supposed to be about finished by now, but you know how stories are & so I am only really in the beginning of the Second Act. Ugh, I feel horrible. This was supposed to be a relatively short story, & I have written it in such a way that I don’t really like the main character (everyone else loves him) & I won’t be able to write any other stories until I’m finished with this one. I’ve been working on it for almost 2 years now, & I still haven’t given it a title. I call it by the main character, Lars. I’ll send it to you via Email (through the Flabbit Room Email that you set up, or some other one if you prefer, just gotta give it to me).
Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. I have put a lot into it, & while I know where the story is going it keeps expanding & new characters keep introducing themselves.
March 9, 2017 at 10:13 am #12552
Yeah, just send it to me at the Flabbit Room email address.
My stories do the same thing. I tried to finish PEACEWAR at the end of Part 1, but the way I did it didn’t really sit quite right with me. So I kept writing, adding a couple more characters and giving the plot a few twists, until I had a story that was growing on its own. I know this sounds kind of weird, but once you get to know your characters, it almost seems like they are alive, and making their own decisions, instead of you planning everything out.
In the words of some author certainly somewhere: “The best stories are the stories that surprise even the author.” I think Mr. Peterson talks about this too, especially during The Monster in the Hollows, trying to figure out who the cloven was and what it was doing.
All that to say, I’m excited to read you book!
March 9, 2017 at 11:29 am #12553
Totally get that about Characters being alive bro. Lars you little piece of Garbage! Ahem excuse me. For someone who is my main character you would think I would like him a little bit more. Sending it to you!
March 9, 2017 at 12:05 pm #12554
Sent it! Although I couldn’t send it in a pdf. packet without paying so it’s all on the Email. Just Ctrl-A & bring it all over to a word document for better reading. Hope you enjoy!
March 11, 2017 at 1:24 am #12580
I love your story so far! Your writing style is really different from most of the things I’ve read, which makes it an interesting read. The only odd things about your style are that there is not a single question mark in the entire book, you use & instead of and, and you call Marcus “Bro Marcus”. Also, the language is a little inconsistent, usually it’s perfect for the setting but sometimes it kind of slips into a modern style. There are a few spelling errors, but I don’t think those are worth going over before you finish the story.
Send me more whenever you can!
Oh yeah, I take it from the story that you play chess? I like chess a lot. I play it with my dad and my little brother. My little brother has been playing chess since he was four, and he beats me one in every three or four games. I just beat my dad for the first time this week. Do you have any apps that would let you play online? Or we could play “chess by forum”.
March 11, 2017 at 3:51 pm #12590
So am I to understand that you finished it? I’m glad you liked it! And see this is what I pay you (with messages) for my dear Elia! Let me explain a few things. The lack of question marks are used for instance, due to my reading of Chronicles of Narnia. In the copies that I have Question Marks are hardly used. They are old & very torn, so that probably they have been updated. But still I use that punctuation for my stories. The &’s come from reading too many maps. The Bro. Marcus just comes from my lazy abbreviations. That is all I have written as to date. OK, I lied, I have written about another half of a chapter. But I didn’t wish to send it to you due to it remaining unfinished! I will continue of course, & keep sending it as I finish multiple chapters.
If you did finish what I have, what did you enjoy? Did you find the characters very enjoyable? What about the plots? Did Lars seem at all worth the while? What did you like or didn’t you like? Any suggestions are most welcome.
Thanks for spending the time, I will send you more when it is written.
March 11, 2017 at 8:30 pm #12593
Okay, I’m confused. You said you had 60,000 words, but I only got about 9,000.
So far, I like the plot. I like the way you wrote Lars, though I don’t necessarily like Lars… well, I guess that’s not exactly fair since I’ve been listening to his thoughts as well as his voice.
As far as the story goes, I would say defiantly keep the chess thing going the whole story, no matter what happens to Lars. Not necessarily Lars playing chess, but comparing battle strategies or life to chess.
I think we both have a problem with writing stories about genius kids who are smarter than most of the adults around them…. I guess geniuses are more fun to write about, and they end up being kids because we are kids. None of the adults who read my book found that annoying, though.
March 11, 2017 at 8:36 pm #12594
Can I help you?
WhiteKnight, what’s the trouble with the PDF? If we could sort that out it might be easier for you to send long documents to Elia. Putting it all in the email should work, although it seems it didn’t this time. Either way, let me know if I can help.
March 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm #12597
Oh yeah, there’s an open source rip off of Microsoft Office called (rather ironically) Open Office, that will let you export documents as PDFs.
March 12, 2017 at 9:40 am #12599
Yeah my dad’s helping me get it converted. Apparently I could only send you a third of what I had by email. I only have 30000 words (apparently) so I was getting ahead of myself. I lied. Sad Face. I thought I had 60000. Guess it comes from outlining the plot to far ahead. I’ll send it to you later today.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
March 12, 2017 at 9:58 am #12601
No problem. If your story is still going strong 30,000 is pretty good. Can’t wait to read the rest!
March 16, 2017 at 10:03 am #12639
Hey Elia, just wanted to let you know about a few things. 1stly, in case you hadn’t seen I have sent you the rest of my book in pdf. form. Hope that made it over well.
2ndly, & perhaps most importantly, I have just received word that I am to receive a VIP ticket to an A.P. Concert on Friday. I was aware that my family had this planned for some time, but only now was it revealed about my ticket status. While I am not pleased with the expenditure, this includes a question & answer period. Besides introducing myself as WhiteKnight111 I will hopefully be able to ask a couple of questions. I already have mine, but I was wondering if there was anything you would like to ask. Let me repeat. Is there a specific question that you would like to ask Mr. Peterson? I would tell him that it was you asking of course. I would tell you his answer as well as what went down there, the answer to my question & of course confirm to you the awesomeness that is the Mr. A.P.
Hope to hear back from you soon!
March 16, 2017 at 10:33 am #12640
Okay, I got your book. I really like it! Especially the chess tournament. It’s inspired me to start playing again (and making me jealous of that blue crystal knight). It cut off kind of abruptly in the middle of the ninth chapter, though.
Okay, now on to the other thing…
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, but I think that is the best way to express what I felt when I first read that comment. Thanks so much for thinking of me!
So, I’ll keep my 1,000,000 possible questions to a minimum:
1. When are you coming to Thailand? (Optional.)
2. Would it be possible for me to get the 3D models of Glipwood that they are working on? I would not to copy, sell, or feed to a flabbit the contents of the file.
3. Is there a background story to the song “Don’t You Want to Thank Someone”? It’s my favorite song and I’ve been wondering what the inspiration for it was. (Also optional, this might turn into a story that ends up taking most of your time. Maybe would he mind writing it down and emailing it to me at email@example.com?)
4. Thank you for all that you write and sing, it’s been a huge inspiration to me as an author and as a missionary. God bless you and may He continue to use your work!
If you don’t end up having time, that’s no problem. Thanks again!
Okay, back to your book.
The only thing that I noticed that might need to be fixed is the prizes for the chess tournament. The blue crystal knight was cut from a jewel that was worth almost as much as the Crown Jewels, but the prize for the knights round was just plain old gold (that sounds kind of bad…). Was the gold more expensive?
March 17, 2017 at 11:58 am #12645
You guys! This is so cool! I’m excited for you, WhiteKnight, and I love that you’re “bringing” Elia along. 🙂
March 17, 2017 at 3:36 pm #12647
OK, I’m off to the concert! Gonna be asking that third question of yours if I get the chance Elia! Glad you not ticked off that I’m going & your not. And hey man, if you can procure a ticket for me to go to Thailand, or vice versa, sign me up. I know you were refering Peterson there but still bro.
I apologize for chapter 9 being cut off, I write as I can, & have to often stop in the middle of chapters. I was hoping to just send you the first 8 complete chapters but in sending it in pdf the whole thing just went so sorry for that anti-climactic ending. As for the chess piece I thought I made the blue knight made of blue topaz & the gold knight made of gold topaz (which is even more rare & valuable. It’s not meant to be solid gold, but a carved jewel). Did anything catch you by suprise? Who was your favorite character? Is there any storyline you would like to see me do?
And Madame Sidler, thanks!
March 17, 2017 at 8:43 pm #12648
Have a good time, and thanks again! I’m still trying to convince Mr. Peterson that he needs to do a show on Thaialnd…. He actually liked one of my comments on Instagram asking him to come, so maybe…
That would be cool if you could come! We have some friends who are out your way, so maybe when we come visit the U.S. sometime in the next two or three years we could meet up.
Okay, I read back over that and I get it now. I guess I should read more slowely, but I was kind of excited about the story. 🙂 No problem about chapter nine. I was just making sure that nothing happened to the PDF.
I’m really interested in Armand, especially the note he just got. I have a pretty good guess as to who he is, but I can’t be sure. I guess I can’t really be sure who my favorite character is before I hear more about him. Send me more whenever you write it!
March 17, 2017 at 11:31 pm #12649
OK!!!!!!!!!!! I have returned! I am writing you on the strokes of Midnight! For me anyway. Oy, my gosh there are too few good musicians in the world! Mr. A.P. for the win always! That concert was awesome!
As to us Elia, I say us, because I introduced myself as WhiteKnight111 to Mr. Peterson & (due to time constraints) asked him your question instead of mine. What???!!! I know, I am too good an interwebs friend, I demand you buy a plane ticket & get yourself to the states as payment for my generosity so called (“An Elia Always Pays His Debts”).
If Mr. Peterson reads this I will ask him my personal question that I was going to ask in addition to yours Elia. Mr. Peterson (Anderson), when you discovered what would happen to Janner at the end of Book 4, what was your response/reaction & what did your children/wife do in the light of this knowledge?
My personal question to Mr. A.P. P.S. I only now realize how appropriate that Matrix joke is since his first name really is Andrew.
O.K. so to answer your question Elia, Mr. Peterson said that he wrote Don’t You Want to Thank Someone off of a (paraphrased) G.K. Chesterton quote. “When Atheists have something momentous happen them, they probably have the worst feeling in the world. They have no one to thank.” Paraphrased Quote. So Mr. Peterson said that he wrote this song for those who don’t know who to thank but still is searching for that someone to give our thanks to. He also said it’s the only song in his life that he heard playing in his house before it was written. He said he had the song done in about 30 minutes. Now that’s talent I would kill for. R.I.P. Mr. Peterson. Begin the playing of appropriate memes below!
So I hope you enjoyed your answer!
As for the book, I am glad you like Armand! Want to know a little known fact about him? When I first started to come up with this story, he wasn’t in it. It was simply Lars, Jean, Karl (who will become a lot more important later than he is now), & Ohtar. I was going along and I just felt that the list of people Lars had to bounce off of was pretty bland & lacking so I said “Hey, it’s the 2000’s. Which means we are contractually obligated to throw in a cliched and moody teen in at some point.” And that’s the only reason I actually added Armand. Now he’s a pretty big deal. I dropped a few hints at his actual identity in earlier chapters if you want to check it out.
And on a personal note, what did you think of that tavern sequence about divulging a little into Sir Knightly’s background? That was a sequence I put a lot of thought into & I just wanted to address that scene in particular. Also that scene early on with Eomund. What do you think of that? That is going to be a relationship that I am going to be going a lot deeper into as time goes on. Gosh, & what do think of Lars’ backstory? Agh, so many questions I’ll leave it there!
Also there is a really interesting story I am working on with my dad that only just came to my mind yesterday. It has real potential yo.
And another thing we need to set up a time for us to play chess online together. Give me a time & a website & I’ll see if I can set it up.
Anyway this is WhiteKnight111, coming at you!
March 18, 2017 at 12:03 am #12650
As you said: What???!!! Thank you. A million times. And I will do my best to but together a meeting at some point. I’m glad you enjoyed the concert! What was your favorite song that he played?
(P.S. Next time ask you own question first and save your freind’s until afterwards. And sorry for sending so many, I didn’t know what the time restrictions were. As I said, thank you.)
Sir Knightly is interesting. I would like to know what his story is and why he is connected with that tavern owner. Are you planning on writing that?
Eomund is interesting. He can’t seem to make up his mind as to whether he likes or hates Lars. I’d be interested to hear about the story with Edward, though I’ve already guessed what happened.
As for chess, chess.com. My username is jannerw. You sign up, hit “Play”, then “Play a Freind”, then enter the username and click “Select”.
I will look forward to being clobbered by you at any time you would like. You give me a time, my schedule is probably more flexiable than yours.
Thanks again! * 1,000,000
March 18, 2017 at 10:03 am #12652
Hmmm….. My favorite songs were probably Dark before the Dawn, All shall be Well, & the Sower’s Song respectively.
Yes, I have a plan for where Sir Knightly is headed. It isn’t going to necessarily be a main focus, but there none the less. Yeah, Eomund and Lars are coming to a head pretty soon, after some events happen.
As for Chess, I have signed on as WhiteKnight2814 (Green Lantern reference) since WhiteKnight111 was already taken. What do you say about 9:00 in the morning (for you). Since we’re 12 hours apart, it should be 9:00 in both our times, what do you say?
P.S. You better tell me the next time you’re in the states bro. Anything east of the Mississippi & south of the lakes & I’ll be there. Texas too.
March 18, 2017 at 10:35 am #12653
Dark Before the Dawn is my third favorite A. P. song (after Don’t You Want to Thank Someone and High Noon). Kind of funny that A. P. also stands for Associated Press… whenever I hear A. P. I think of college football standings.
When we come back to the states (whenever that is), I will defiantly be in Oklahoma, and probably in Texas also. I will look forward to meeting you. (And I’ll be looking up when I actually, do. Still short.)
0900 my time works fine. Church doesn’t start til 1000.
Thank you again for asking Mr. Peterson my question. I love that quote.
March 18, 2017 at 4:59 pm #12655
Glad it works for ya, talk to you soon!