Friday Night Fights

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Who would win in a fight?

This is going to be a funny place to have imaginary fights between characters or creatures in the series, or between Wingfeather characters and those from other series or even from outside of books. Every once in awhile, I (or one of you!) can post a matchup, and then we can have play-arguments about who would win. (Not necessarily on Fridays; that’s just a joke from wrestling tournaments and Stephen Colbert.)

First match: Snickbuzzard vs. Squeeblin. GO!

[Sam Durga]

This is tough! The snickbuzzard can snick- as well as buzz!- but I’m not sure if it can do either one before the squeeblin betrays it.

For me, it’s a toss-up between umbilical implications and hidden treachery- and I vote for treachery. But this could totally go either way.

Would there be any handicaps with the snickbuzzard being able to fly and the squeeblin not?

[Noah Aikens]

I don’t think I quite remember the squeeblin. maybe that’s a good excuse to read the series again.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Noah, yes! Read them again! 😀 (The squeeblin is in the Creaturepedia, though, which is maybe why you don’t remember it from the series.)

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Okay, new matchup: Quill diggle vs. horned hound. Who will win?

[Peet the Sock Man]

Quilldiglle

[Noah Aikens]

horned hound

[Miss Mary]

Hmmm, this is a good one. I think it might depend on the specific ones of each species, but in general I would suspect the quilldiggle will come out on top. The reasons I suspect so are that while horned hounds are extremely ferocious and determined, and have that dangerous horn, they still have the major weakness of their kind known in our world…that sensitive nose…a few well aimed quills and suddenly the quilldiggle is not such a fun prey after all.

I also suspect if they lost these matches frequently then we would never know about quilldiggles at all since they can be found in the same areas. They probably would have become extinct long before now if they couldn’t defend against horned hounds.

Of course, I don’t see them winning on the offense either. They just aren’t made for it. They can’t chase down a horned hound and make it surrender to them! So if the hound was not on the offensive I think it would be a draw.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Butterbread, or bread-and-butterflies?

[Rebecca]

Bread and butterflies

[The Terrethian]

The baker always wins!

[Elia]

I would like to see the rest of the fight between Janner and the Quill Diggle. Or how about a Bomnuble vs. a small Sea Dragon?

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Elia, great ideas! Especially the bomnubble vs. dragon—wow.

[Jaiden]

I would like to see a fight between a squeeblin and a ridge-runner. That would be amusing.

[cadwick]

i sometimes play a game like that with friends on a car ride called epic duels. its where you pair two movie characters and tell what weapons they have and then decide who would win. its fun.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Would you rather wrestle an alligator, or a daggerfish?

[Elia Tyson]

I think what Madame Sidler is trying to ask is whether you would rather be chewed to death or stabbed to death. As for me, I think I’ll just steer clear of rivers and swamps all together.

[Rebecca]

Maybe a daggerfish lol

[Danniby]

What about Bilbo (young-ish) VS all the fangs in Glipwood?

[Toklaham Veruzia]

If there were a lot of Fangs, Bilbo could possibly trick them into killing each other. Or maybe light a fire and summon all the beasts in GLipwood to come eat the Fangs. I don’t see how he could win in a straight-up fight. Hobbits aren’t renowned for their fighting skills.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

By “Fangs in Glipwood,” I assume we are talking about the less-clever Green Fangs? I think Bilbo would have an easier time with them than with Grey Fangs.

[Rebecca]

Too late now he’s thin and stretched like butter over too much bread

[Rebecca]

Um would you please taking my last name off that? Sorry and thanks . Ugh autofill is invented by ridgerunners! Lol

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Done!

[Rebecca]

Thanks 🤗

[The Terrethian]

I think Bilbo would just escape from the Fangs, not fight them.

[Miss Mary]

I am not completely sure who would win this… I am betting that Bilbo would though given his advantages of Sting and most importantly a certain ring.

The Fangs of Glipwood have the advantages of numbers certainly, but numbers can become a disadvantage if you can’t stay unified and work together. And historically the Fangs of Glipwood are not particularly good at teamwork even without invisible enemies. Add a burglar who can creep silently and invisibly just about anywhere and they would REALLY get into fights.

His main risk would be that someone would run into him or squish him by accident while fighting with each other. No way to be sure to avoid every collision in a crowd…and toothy cows and other wild things are still a problem…and he has never seen them before.

Bilbo wins…unless he goes home for supper before they are all gone.

[Elia Tyson]

Kylo Ren vs. The Florid Sword.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Ha!

That is tricky, because while the Florid Sword would probably leap down from a roof and therefore have the element of surprise, he also knows when he’s overmatched and feels no shame in dashing off and picking up the fight again later in another way. What would happen if the fight started to go in Kylo’s favor? Would the Florid Sword stick it out? And if he did, would he regain the upper hand?

[Thunder Boy]

Kylo ren to put it straight is a boss florid sword is cool but kylo ren is still a boss

[Toklaham Veruzia]

Unless the Florid Sword had an opportunity to upgrade his sword to a lightsaber, he’d be at a severe disadvantage due to being incapable of parrying Kylo’s blows. Kylo Ren could also use the Force to throw things, shoot lightning or choke his opponent, so he’d have an additional advantage. However, he also has an ugly temper, so the Florid Sword could probably provoke him into acting rashly. If they were on the streets of Dugtown, the Florid Sword would have a better understanding of the terrain and could dash away, then launch a surprise attack later. But if they were fighting on an Imperial ship, he wouldn’t stand a chance.

[Sara Cobler]

A skreean bomnubble VS a symian bomnubble

[Sara Cobler]

From Pembrick’s Creaturepedia

Bomnubble (Skreean)
Weakness: None. Unless you count its appetite, which was my salvation that day in the den, for it woke from its restless slumber, sniffed the air, and set out for more munchables, which allowed me time to make my escape.

Bomnubble (Symain)
Weakness: Napping. Sunshine. Sailing, evidently.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

No weaknesses for the Skreean Bomnubble! I suspect it would have an advantage over the comparatively relaxed Symian Bomnubble.

[Vekka Youngbeast]

Agreed. Symain bomnubble, it is

[Vekka Youngbeast]

This is a fun idea! Can we resurrect it?

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Absolutely! Do you want to start us off? 🙂

[Vekka Youngbeast]

Oh! Well, um… Lessee…

6 Grey Fangs vs. a Toothy Cow

[Celidah]

I must agree with Tolkaham. I don’t see how 6 smart, sentient Gray Fangs wouldn’t outwit a toothy cow. Now multiple toothy cows, on the other hand…

[Toklaham Veruzia]

The Grey Fangs have sentience, so they could plan ahead and trap the cow.

[I.L]

This doesn’t have to be on Friday… Does it?

Water-horse vs Sea-dragon

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Nope, any day is fine. 🙂 Good matchup!

[Isaac Loyd]

🙂 They were pretty similar, so it would be interesting to see which one.

[Peet the Sock Man]

Sea Dragon

[Vekka Youngbeast]

Toklaham, Celidah — Welllll I haven’t read it in a long time so…….
I.L. — I immediately thought sea dragon, but then again I don’t know what a water-horse is

[Colson]

What about Artham or Legolas?

[Celidah]

Oooo, Arthram vs Legolas is a tough one. If, theoretically, it were a fight to the death, Legolas could probably track & shoot Arthram out of the sky. I don’t think Arthram would be faster than Legolas’s arrows. But a friendly spar is a much tougher call.

[The Terrethian]

But then, why would these guys fight?

[Celidah]

Like I said, maybe Legolas & Artham would do a friendly spar? Legolas couldn’t use his arrows if so, though. Or maybe he could carry the finest Elvish Nerf arrows.

[Hannah]

It would depend on if Peet maintained his sanity throughout the fight. If not, he’s dead. Or if it’s windy. Cause if it is, Peet can still claw Legolas to death, but Legolas would be completely vulnerable, because he wouldn’t be able to shoot straight. Under perfect weather conditions… I have no idea (my sister says they would get bored, because they are evenly matched).

[Colson]

a group of Sea Dragons or Smaug?

As mush as I love Sea Dragons my bet is on Smaug 🙂

[Isaac Loyd]

Yeah, Smaug could blast their heads while they are trying to snap at him. And he is more experienced at flying, even if it was after the fourth book.

[Celidah]

True, but if a swarm of sea dragons were attacking Smaug, could he really hit them all before being overwhelmed? (Disclaimer: I haven’t seen the Desolation of Smaug, so I have no idea what movie Smaug is like in action.)

[Hannah]

But is this fight in water or on land? Cause I don’t think Smaug would win in water. Swimming, at least.

[Peet the Sock Man]

Smaug

[Isaiah Upshaw]

or smaug could fly over the water

[Toklaham Veruzia]

Smaug seems quite inefficient in Desolation, seeing as he (mild spoiler) fights the dwarves for 30 straight minutes of film and doesn’t manage to so much as scar a single one of them.

It’s probably better to consider Smaug’s fighting capabilities by the way he’s described in the book. 🍿🍿😏

[Thunder Boy]

smaug was stuck inside a mountain if he was free it would be a fair fight

[Colson]

What about J.R.R Tolkein on a Warg or Andrew Peterson on Nugget!

[Vekka Youngbeast]

Ha! Um… Maybe the warg. But then again, I’m no expert on LOTR

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

That is an amazing mental image. XD

[Celidah]

I have nothing to add to this thread except that the mental image of Tolkien & AP going at it on a warg & Nugget respectively is cracking me up.

[Peet the Sock Man]

A.P on Nugget

[I.L]

The warg would have an even chance with Nugget, whereas Nugget succeeds the warg in size and strength, the warg has more ferocity than Nugget, and if it gets close, could rip the trachea out easily. I have no idea on this one, it probably depends on the weapons that A.P. and J.R.R have. Like if J.R.R has a orcish crossbow, and A.P. has a hollish-hammer, J.R.R would win. And if A.P. has the florid-sword’s sword and J.R.R has a hobbit-sling, A.P. would win.

[Noah Aikens]

In the pictures I have seen of Tolkien, AP seems to be in much better shape. But I really want Tolkien to win because he’s just such an awesome writer. But then again Tolkien would probably despise us for thinking he may ride a warg.

[Hannah]

Are Nugget and the Warg doing the actual fighting, or is it reliant on the riders? And would AP be able to maintain his focus, or would he be too giddy?

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

“…if it gets close, could rip the trachea out easily” and “In the pictures I have seen of Tolkien, AP seems to be in much better shape” made me laugh so hard, you guys. XD

[The Friendly Wordsmith]

May I remind you that Nugget took down a troll, killed dozens of fangs, and has Leeli to fight for (that one is big). The warg, although ferocious and terrible, is going to have less strength, maybe less speed, and only has dark hatred to fight for. Also Nugget hunted both horned hounds and toothy cows with ease.

To say that a warg could easily rip out Nugget’s trachea doesn’t seem right. When someone is fighting for love, they can fight in ways that darkness simply can’t. Nugget died fighting for love, and as I said, he took a troll and many fangs with him.

Fisticuffs I.L. to say such things! I know you and I know your voice… Beware…

And yes, Tolkien would loath riding a warg, but for the sake of argument, I will analyze. Andrew Peterson is by no means withered, some might call him fit. Tolkien was in his forties (mid to late) in the first stages of writing LOTR, but remember that he was also military, which means not to be trifled with.

So let me say this. I think Andrew and Nugget have the upper hand, because of Nugget (mainly). The warg is a lesser creature, and has less to fight for. Tolkien might have the upper hand one on one, but with Nugget, I’m afraid it wouldn’t count enough.

-The Friendly Wordsmith-

[I.L]

Three Bat-fangs vs Two fishy Stonekeepers

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

That’s tricky! They would be able to evade each other pretty easily, but would they fight in the air or on a ship or on land? Do they have weapons?

[Colson]

Thorin Oakensheild or Gammon?

[I.L]

Gammon would, Thorin is a good fighter, but he is easily susceptible to sneak-attacks, as shown in the Battle of Five Armies (I’m not sure if he would lose as easy if it was the Thorin in the book). Gammon is used to using hiding places and ambushes, so he would win.

[Peet the Sock Man]

Throrin

[Thunder Boy]

gammon would win in a town such as dugtown but if we were out in the open thorin is a better hand to hand fighter

[Leeli]

How about Narnian tree people VS a bomnubble

[I.L]

Dryads vs a bomnubble?

Depends on how many dryads, and it also depends if the bomnubble has an axe, so it can cut down the dryads.

[Peet the Sock Man]

What about Andrew Peterson on Nugget v.s. Rick Riordan on a toothy cow.

[Brighton Nelson]

1. Andrew Peterson on Nugget, obviously.
2. Why would Rick Riordan ride a toothy cow?

[Brighton Nelson]

Batman vs. Artham P. Wingfeather

[Peet the Sock Man]

Artham

[Thunder Boy]

you want to say artham but then again its batman

[Artham]

Florid sword vs anakin
Anakin without the force and florid sword with a lightsaber

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Ooh! Now that is intriguing!

[The Friendly Wordsmith]

The Florid Sword is by far the better duelist. And Anakin doesn’t know how to stay cool while he fights, FS does.

[Thunder Boy]

I disagree Anakin trained his whole life for fighting and he took out battle droids with blasters but the florid sword took out fangs with spears

[Artham]

But remember anakin relies on the force and he wouldn’t have it in the fight

[The Friendly Wordsmith]

Anakin though was trained alongside the force, and probably would be a danger to more to himself than to FS. Sure Anakin knows how to fight well with a lightsaber, but he’s trained to do it by using the force. When you take the force away it’s almost like taking away someones arm. I think we can safely say that the only reason Jedi and Sith don’t kill themselves on accident is because of the force. It is so integrated in what they do.

The Florid Sword is not only a brilliant swordsman, but he is very good at frustrating his opponents, while staying cool. Remember how big a difference that had in the fight between Anakin and Obi-wan. Anakin was stronger, but he was so angry and emotionally charged that he ended up doing something that nearly killed him, and the force is probably what kept him alive.

[Thunder Boy]

here’s the thing in the star wars universe if you have the force and you are angry thats supposedly a bad thing #jedi are evil but in real life anakin would still be a good swordsman because he trained most of his life to use a lightsaber and his emotions wouldn’t be a bad thing they would help him same as emotions helped janner all the time

[Artham]

What if they have shadowblade and ahsoka?
And the lightsabers can’t just cut up the swords and daggers

[Thunder Boy]

ahsoka all day everyday

[Artham]

I noticed a lack of narnian characters in the fights so how about

Reepicheep vs 1 grey fang

[Artham]

I think reepicheep would win because the grey fang would laugh at a mouse chalenging him then reepicheep would out-fight him

[The Friendly Wordsmith]

GO TEAM REEP!

A point I have made before, is that there is something to say about fighting for love. Reepicheep has something to fight for that the fang can’t comprehend. All the fang wants to do is be evil, but Reep is fighting to Aslan, and everything Aslan stands for. Besides I think he’s also a better fighter than most any fang.

-The Friendly Wordsmith-

[Thunder Boy]

unfortunately the grey fang would win, while all that stuff you said is inspiring the grey fang would beat the living crap out of a mouse. But if we were in narnia reepicheep would win because you have all the magic stuff, but if we are in real life reepicheep is dead

[Artham]

Reepicheep is not just a mouse he is one of the best fighters ever

[Thunder Boy]

He is still as small as a mouse and a fang could just kick him however if reep had that nifty bush like ground he would win

[Artham]

Reepicheep can dodge a kick. Remember he is an amazing fighter and the fang would underestimate him

[Isaiah Upshaw]

Lets look at the facts in prince caspian in which reep is cool the telmarines don’t try to kick him they try to hit him with there swords the one time a telmarine trys to kick a mouse he connects. Plus grey fangs are supposedly very intelligent I dont think an intelligent grey fang would mess around a green fang however reep could beat.

[Artham]

I agree with everything you said

[Artham]

By you i meant friendly wordsmith

[Artham]

How about: jewel (the unicorn from last battle) vs a toothy cow

[The Friendly Wordsmith]

That’s a tough one.

[Thunder Boy]

toothy cow while the unicorn might have a little range the toothy cow is bigger and a better fighter

[Ian G.]

I’d say Jewel would win, being (I would think) more agile and faster than a toothy cow, which is still a cow (thus having the bulk of a cow). Plus, he has a stabbing/goring advantage with his horn.

[Ian G.]

Oopy. I didn’t mean to keep the italics on.

[Ian G.]

LOL. I meant oops, not oopy.

[Thunder Boy]

yeah this is a hard one because we don’t really ever see the toothy cow to its full potential and we really don’t see how a horn would give you a range advantage. Because to use the horn you have to put your head down and in a fight that is strategic suicide

[Artham]

I think jewel would have the long range advantage

[Artham]

How about:
Percy jackson vs kalmar
On land and kalmar fanged

[Thunder Boy]

how about janner vs Frodo with sting

[Miss Linda]

Percy Jackson vs Fanged Kal- I’m totally going Kal. Younger, faster, plus teeth and claws, and an insane nature. Percy Jackson won’t have any special effects to help him. I think Kal wins.

The other matchup- does Janner get a weapon? He is going to have more weapons training and a longer reach than Frodo, but if he doesn’t have a weapon and Frodo has sting, I think Janner is in trouble. Otherwise, I would lean toward Janner winning, since Hobbits are not naturally that warlike and Janner DID finish his Durgan training.

[Artham]

Podo vs a hippogriff

[Isaac]

XDXDXD I can just imagine that, Podo swinging a club in the air and screaming, while the hippogriff stays a few inches out of range, blowing raspberries. I would technically bet on the hippogriff to outlast Podo. No offense meant 🙂

[Ian G.]

Depends how Podo is armed, I think. If he has a sword, then I’d say he probably wins if the hippogriff actually attacks. If the hippogriff wanted to survive, it’d be a stalemate. It also depends on whether Podo fights it like he does a thwap or a fang.

[Artham]

Podo would win

Podo and the hippogriff would be facing off when podo would attack then the hippogriff would fly just out reach angering podo who would then call the hippogriff names which angers a hippogriff so it would charge podo who would kill it with his sword

[Artham]

I think the hippogriff would win unless it went in for kill then podo would kill it

[Artham]

Does anyone know rwby? They have some cool fighting people

[Artham]

Coach hedge vs podo

[Thunder Boy]

what about Aragorn vs florid sword they have usuall equipment and are on the flats of mordor

[Isaiah Upshaw]

This is a tough one but I think I would have to o with aragorn

[Thunder Boy]

also a grey fang vs one of sarumans orcs (the half men ones)

[Isaiah Upshaw]

I would have to say the fang it is going to be faster and smarter

[Isaiah Upshaw]

what about captain america w/his arm shields from infinity war vs. podo florid sword janner and shadowblade all with normal equipment

I think that captain america would stomp

[Thunder Boy]

I would have to agree that captain america would beat them all.
as for orc and fang I would also go with fang

[Wakanda Forever]

what about peter edmund and susan (all with regular equipment) vs Florid sword, shadowblade, Janner and peet the sock man (all with regular equipment and peet before his wings)
ps movie versions of narnians

[Isaiah Upshaw]

I would have to go with the Wingfeather saga people they have the numbers on the narnians plus the florid sword and shadowblade seem to be the powerhouses while janner with a sword and with durgan training (while we never actually see the extent of janners training I’m sure its not limited to sneakiness) he would be able to in my book easily take on edmund and florid sword could take out peter and maraly could take on susan then peet (provided he didn’t go mad) could help where he was needed

[Artham]

Agreed

[Isaiah Upshaw]

What about Janner(w/sword)vs Peter (w/sword and movie version not book version)

[Artham]

Depends on what book for peter. I assume in prince caspian so I would say that Peter would win because most of janner’s durgan training is in sneakery not sword fighting while peter beat miraz who was a great sword fighter

[Isaiah Upshaw]

movie version of peter and I would have to disagree while we never see actual sword fighting training it had to be inevitable.

[Artham]

Sorry missed that part. You mean prince caspian movie right? Well janner had to have some sword training but it probably wasn’t as much as peter. Is this fight in an arena?

[Isaiah Upshaw]

lets say its in the forest that peter fought prince caspian this would give an extra advantage to janner cuz of his durgan training

this is a hard one because janner obviously practiced with weapons in his durgan training but we dont know to what extent

[Artham]

I think it would be a fun battle to watch but i still got to go with peter because remember he lived and trained in narnia for many years in the lion the witch and the wardrobe and when he returned he remembered his old training

[Isaiah Upshaw]

Yeah I honestly dont know since after his durgan training we don’t really see to what extent he is with a sword in a duel

[Artham]

Kal vs Helmer(green ember)

[Artham]

This is interesting because it is a wolf vs a rabbit

[Ian G.]

Helmer has taken down quite a few wolves in his day…

[Heidi]

I know not of this ‘Helmer’ person of whom you speak…so Kalmar I suppose cause Kalmar is awesome and likes food… He may be hungry and want to eat said ‘Helmer’ person?

[Heidi]

Although I have no idea who you talk about when you say ‘Helmer’ so Kalmar might not be able to eat him…

[Heidi]

Aw, who am I kidding? Kalmar can eat anything!

[Artham]

Helmer is one big rabbit who spends his time training to kill wolves

[Heidi]

Hmm…Maybe Kalmar would have a bit of a problem then…

[Artham]

S D Smith (he wrote green ember) told me that helmer would definetly win

[Ian G.]

You actually asked him (Sam) who would win?

[Artham]

Yep

[Ian G.]

That’s awesome. I never think to ask those kinds of questions.

[Artham]

I was going to ask both s d smith and andrew peterson and have them debate but andrew peterson left early

[Hannah]

Wouldn’t he be obligated to say Helmer would win, if he’s his character?

[Heidi]

that would make sense…although you are related to me so I sort of have to agree with you on that… another example of nepotism there…

[Artham]

Yes he was being biased but funny about it. I do agree with him though

[Ian G.]

Yeah, I can imagine him saying that.

[Artham]

He has a very dry sense of humor.

[Artham]

Rudric, Artham, Florid Sword, and Shadowblade vs Anakin, Obi wan Kenobi, Ahsoka, and Yoda without the force and all with equal weapons
In A forest

[Cadwick]

IDK, we haven’t really seen jedi’s fight without light sabers and the force.

[Heidi]

Where would they be fighting? Cause if they were in Star Wars Universe the latter group would win, cause is their turth, but if it is on Aerwiar the first group may win because of the previously stated reason… also, are they using swords?

[Heidi]

If they are using swords the first group would have the upper hand cause they use them all the time, but all the Jedi people would be like “Yo! These clumsy weapons are too heavy yo!”
But if they were using Blasters they would both lose, cause Wingfeather people wouldn’t have a clue what they were cause they didn’t even have guns, and Jedi don’t use them cause they like lightsabers and think blasters are stupid. In that case they would just go make some cheesy chowder and butter bread and settle their differences over lunch.

[Artham]

Let’s just say they all had their normal weapons but the lightsabers couldn’t cut through the other’s also the setting is a forest with tree’s that they could jump around on

[Isaiah Upshaw]

I would have to go with anakin and company they dont have the force but they have been trained with lightsabers all there life and they would naturally stomp over the poor rugged aerwier company

[Artham]

They are in a massive forrest and the branches are able to be standing on so they would be jumping around and shadowblade would be throwing knives, rudric would be shooting arrows and artham would be flying above then swooping done to attack

[Isaiah Upshaw]

bro lets be fair here how many times in the clone wars have you seen them dodge blaster bullets going at least a hundred times the speed of an arrow some of this is related to the force but star wars company still stomps around.

[Artham]

keep in mind that the jedi rely on the force a ton and blaster bullets are slow but i think it would depend on how much of their fighting ability comes from the force. so i would idk

[Ian G.]

Star Wars blaster bolt: 130-135 mph (as calculated by Adam Savage)
Arrow from a recurve bow: 150 mph

[Leeli]

Okay, how about The White Witch VS. Gnag? (Gnag in his regular form, not sea dragon form)

[Heidi]

dear goodness! they’ll set all the poor trees on fire! it will catch everything on fire! oh no! poor Skree people!

[Leeli]

I think I the White Witch would win because she can just turn him into a statue, except then all of the green fangs and gray fangs and bat fangs would come after her, but if Gnag was in his sea dragon form, I think he would beat the White Witch, ugh! I don’t know which side to take, they’re both really evil! Gnag changed everyone and everything so he could have power, but The White Witch killed Aslan and tried to kill the Pevensies! Gnag was lied to, but The White Witch was a murderer. Wow, I don’t know

[Heidi]

I agree with White Witch. Pre Sea Dragon Gnag was all puny and stuff and she’s like ‘wah! I destroy you!”

[Artham]

the white witch is satan so i don`t think gnag has a chance

[Artham]

in any form

[Isaiah Upshaw]

Sure the white witch is symbolic of satan but if were going to be fair here I would say Gnag would also be symbolic of satan anyway its not fair to judge someone on who they are symbolic of Janner was sybolic of Jesus be that doesn’t mean he gets special points anyway the white witch stomps either way if she has her wand if she doesn’t she would beat gnarly gnag but not sea dragon gnag

[Artham]

I would not say that gnag is symbolic of satan but i could be wrong. i agree that the white witch would win

[Leeli]

Agreed, wow, that was an easy decision.

[Isaiah Upshaw]

What about Ten gray fangs all with normal equipment against ten mordor orcs. On the flats of mordor all with swords.

P.S Team orc all the way

[Leeli]

Sorry, I haven’t read “The Lord of the Rings” yet, it’s a little scary for me…so I wouldn’t know about orcs……

[Hannah]

They’re kind of like really mean goblins.

[Hannah]

Maybe a little uglier than Goblins…

[Leeli]

Ok, then ugly mean goblins win!

[Isaiah Upshaw]

did I read it wrong or did someone on this site actually agree with me on something

[Cadwick]

Mordor orks would definitely win i think. They’re not Isengard orks, they’re Mordor orks. They’re way better trained and are made by Sauron. I think they would win but that’s just me. Also they’re pretty smart so they won’t fall for too many tricks.

Cadwick

[Heidi]

what about bananas vs honey muffins?

[Leeli]

Uhh, are those characters??

[Leeli]

Hmm…..Bananas are calm(because they make people calm)and they have a pointy part on the end to fight with….but honey muffins? Maybe the honey muffin could squirt stick honey at the banana, but the banana could just poke it with his pointy thing and the honey muffin would crumble. They’re very sensitive. I’d say banana

[Leeli]

*sticky* not stick

[Artham]

Banana: because it is living unlike a honeymuffin but i would much rather eat a honeymuffin

[Heidi]

yes. they sound much more appetizing than bananas. bananas are ew…

[Leeli]

If they’re the honey muffins Janner had to eat, then honey muffins win for sure.

[Heidi]

Banana: (Tries to beat up Honey muffins) Oh dear, can’t. stay. awake… (falls over and starts snoring)

Honey Muffin: (looks smug)

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

This whole matchup is hilarious. XD

[Leeli]

Yeah, I think honey muffins win. If it’s ok, I’ll put of another duel.
Edmond VS Kalmar! (Edmond in wide form, not traitor form)
(Both with weapons) (Edmond has a gray fang that’s good, (like Kalmar)(but Kalmar is not in grey fang for)and Kalmar has Troufflehunter)

[Leeli]

Whoops, *wise* form, not *wide* form

[Leeli]

And up not of, wow I sent that too fast! 😆

[Heidi]

Kalmar, cause he’s like Kalmar.

[Artham]

Now, moving on, I think that Edmund and grey fang would win because the grey fang is the strongest and biggest and Edmund is the best with a sword while Trufflehunter and Kalmar are both decent but not amazing.

[Leeli]

(Thanks Artham!) I agree about Edmond and Grey fangs

[Thunder Boy]

Aragorn vs janner

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[Thunder Boy]

thats cold

[Artham]

I’d go with aragorn becaise janner is not that great

[Buddy J.]

I’d have to agree… If you need an equivalent of Aragorn maybe Artham. But even then it’d be hard.

[Artham]

I don’t know much LOTR but I do know that Aragorn could beat janner

[Buddy J.]

Aragron is very very good!

[Artham]

Artham vs hiccup on Toothless

The time of the second movie
Artham has a sword, hiccup has his flaming one

[Buddy J.]

Well… I’ve only seen clips from HTTYD, and I am a fan of TWS. If Artham has wings (I’m assuming he does), we know that he is very fast. I don’t know about Toothless.

I think Toothless is stronger and his fire blasts are a huge advantage, but Artham has far better fighting skills than Hiccup, and he doesn’t have to coordinate two minds at the same time. He is smaller and probably more agile than Toothless thus making him less ofa target.

All in all I think it’s be pretty fair, but my bet goes toward Artham.

[Isaac Loyd]

I’m betting on Toothless and Hiccup,

First of all, if they are not fighting on land, there will be very little sword-fighting other than the occasional stab-as-you-pass-by (If it was more than that, then Toothless could easily shoot Artham while he isn’t zooming around). Because of this, Artham’s fighting skills would be limited to claws and wings.

Second, If Artham is even grazed by a plasma blast, his feathers would incinerate immediately, causing him to lose his maneuverability.

Third, a night-fury is both much faster and much more agile in the air than Artham.

Fourth, if Hiccup has his shield-crossbow-trap-thingy (XD), then he could take out Artham pretty easily.

[Isaac Loyd]

Nvm, he just has his flaming sword… No shield-crossbow-trap-thingamajig.

[Buddy J.]

Okay… On what grounds are you saying that a nightfury is faster and more agile than Artham? We know that Artham flew from the Phoob Islands to Kimeria in a matter of minutes. Also think about the speed at which he escaped from the fortress with Kalmar in hands. Artham is extremely fast!

On top of that he was swatting away arrows with his hands (maybe crossbow bolts) while flying in Monster In The Hollows. He dodged arrows in North Or Be Eaten.

Also… You think that he wouldn’t sword fight from the air? I’m not talking about fencing. I’m talking about passes with swipes and stabs that have every ounce of speed and strength from Artham. And btw… Artham is incredibly strong. Remember how he broke the cage?

Now you are assuming Artham will get hit by a fireball… I am not saying what will happen, but looking at each abilities and comparing with a mindset of who has more potential. Artham has what it takes to dodge fireballs… Because of how we see him fight while flying (with a sword) we can assume his reflexes are faster than just about anything (not quite everything). He is stronger than the average man, and has eyesight unparalleled.

You are making assumptions that are based on Artham not being as good as he is, which kinda hurts your position. So I would recommend you start with what each of them has, and compare that way instead of taking one and saying because he has this he will win.

Now… If you still want to argue about whether or not he’s better than the Florid sword I can do that too. 🙂

[Artham]

I agree that Artham is more agile than Toothless and that he is no doubt much much much much better than hiccup in a sword fight. I don’t know how their speed is compared to one other but I think that is the deciding factor in this fight. The main advantage for Hiccup and Toothless is that they have long range. Also this is the time of movie 2 so Hiccup has his glider but I don’t think that will help much in the fight.

Artham is better than Floris Sword

[Buddy J.]

Yes… Hiccup would be basically just be liability as soon as he leaves Toothless’s back.

And honestly I would say that even if Toothless is faster, it’s not by much, and it won’t make much of a difference. That’s what I observe.

[Artham]

If Toothless is fast enough to stay away from Artham and shoot him with a plasma blast, they would win. BUT if Artham is fast enough to keep up or agile enough to dodge the shots then he would go for the cloth tail and Toothless would spin out of control and crash. Once toothless is down ans out of shots Artham could easily finish them off.

[Buddy J.]

Keep in mind that Toothless has only six blasts… And all Artham has to do is dodge them.

[Artham]

Oh wait hiccup is the main character so he always beats everbody even though everybody he fights is more powerful than he is. 🙂

Artham would win unless Toothless is fast enough to stay away from him then it would be a stalemate

[Buddy J.]

I really like your name, and it’s very fitting for this fight.

#teamartham

[Artham]

Toothless is very fast but he has a six shot limit.
I would love to see this match. Also hiccup and toothless being two minds isn’t much of a disadvantage because they together really well and anticipate each others moves I would go with toothless unless he ran out shots then they would not stand a chance

[Buddy J.]

Well… Coordinating two minds takes more work than one, even if the two minds are very good. Even in the case of a pair like Hiccup and Toothless there will be a communication lag (even if slightly), and they not only have to fight as a pair, but defend as a pair. This means if one is vulnerable, it leaves the other vulnerable to a certain degree.

Artham is the best and most skilled fighter in all of The Wingfeather Saga (in that epoch). He has the experience that Hiccup does not. And he also doesn’t have to coordinate two minds.

Artham can coordinate everything he does in timing with flight. But between Hiccup and Toothless there is a communication that has to happen and will slow them down, even if slightly.

Also keep in mind that alone, neither one of them is on par with Artham. Hiccup would have no chance, and Artham could take on Hiccup. This plays into the idea that in a way each one is a liability to the other.

[Isaac Loyd]

I disagree at Artham being the most skilled fighter in that epoch, The Florid Sword is. 🙂

[Thunder Boy]

first off I really don’t think there is an argument here we don’t know how long it took for artham to fly over the sea and second toothless is a dragon you know those things that fly and have almost inpenetrable scales and fire breath! Toothless in HTTYD3 beat a dragon that was the size of a sea dragon. But on the other hand artham has wings so that makes him powefull enough to take on a dragon.

[Buddy J.]

When Artham escaped the Phoob Islands we know that Janner saw it in a vision, as it was happening. Now… I just looked at the book, and it was more than a few minutes (it was many hours). That being said, he’s going very fast.

Also, you can’t generalize Toothless with dragons, and stay consistent. Toothless is a kind of dragon. And if I’m not mistaken, when one of the characters came of age (in HTTYD) they had to fight a dragon, and it wasn’t a hopeless cause. These dragons are defeatable by humans.

[Thunder Boy]

yes but what your forgetting is toothless is a nightfury which nobody ever fought before.

[Artham]

No one fought a night fury because they were hunted to extinction by dragon hunters. All Artham has to do is dodge six shots which he could do

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

I agree that Artham could dodge just about anything. He could maneuver really splendidly right after getting his wings, so now that he’s well-practiced I imagine he would have no trouble at all. What if he went a little crazy in the middle of the fight, though?

[Artham]

I think with all of Artham’s fights we assume that he won’t go crazy

[Buddy J.]

Well… Hmm… That’s tough, the fight would definitely change… But I don’t want to think about how.

[Artham]

Let’s just say that he won’t otherwise he would lose every battle and then there’s no point in ever putting him in a match

[Buddy J.]

But if you remember… Artham goes into his place of shock when he’s putting those he loves in more danger then not. So long as he can remember that he has people to love, he doesn’t go into his state of defense (when he goes crazy).

[Buddy J.]

Thunder Boy- (sorry I missed this comment, it never sent me an email until just now)

Though it’s my understanding that they were hunted to extinction, by humans.

[Thunder Boy]

has anyone read the ascendance trilogy if so Jaron vs Janner

[Leeli]

I have not, but I know Janner’s a great fighter!

[Heidi]

janner…cause iggy feathers…and I don’t know who the other person is either…

[Jesse Gabel]

Personally, I would love to see a fight between Spider-Bonifer and melded-Esben. That just sounds so epic to me.

[Heidi]

oooo…difficulty… Esben cause he’s a bear. Bears are bigger than puny little spidermen.

[Jesse Gabel]

Yes, but Bonifer Squoon was a giant spider. And while Esben would have likely won’t due to brute strength, spiders are nimble and have 8 limbs with which to stab, jab, and whack, not to mention Bonifer probably would have some sort of poisonous bite. So while Esben may seem like the obvious winner, Bonifer could probably kill him, or at least wound Esben enough for him to die later.

[Thunder Boy]

he is spiderman spiderman will always win

[Jesse Gabel]

So does that mean all the Bat Fangs are Batman?

[Thunder Boy]

yes do you know why …………. because there batmen

if you haven’t whatched how it should have ended on youtube do it.

[Heidi]

no. it just means they are men that are bats. and bonifer being a spiderman means he is a man whwo is also a spider. batfangs are not batman

[Artham]

If bonifer was spiderman then he would win but he is just a spider with a man’s head so he is not as agile as spiderman

[Hannah]

All those legs would make it tricky to maneuver.

[Jesse Gabel]

Yes but you have to take into account that spiders are just as agile on eight legs as we are on two, if not more agile.

[Thunder Boy]

okay how about spiderman and captain america vs dragon gnag.
This is actually a really tough one for me because while I think right off the top of my head gang would because he is bigger spiderman and captain america are two of the smartest people in the mcu with caps miliatary planning and spidermans webs I have a feeling that the two of them could empire strikes back gnag like in civil war

ps I just realized that if you haven’t watched marvel then no one will understand this.

[Thunder Boy]

so go watch marvel

civil war to be exact

[Jesse Gabel]

Hmm ya know making up fights between Wingfeather characters is something I might actually do on my YouTube channel. I started a Wingfeather themed channel a week ago and posted it in Community Conversations but it hasn’t gotten any attention.

Here’s the link if anyone wants to check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChe7vX0m6F1XuTQMniI9z0Q

[Thunder Boy]

thats actually a good Idea but you should also include characters from other series as well lotr star wars marvel etc.

[Jesse Gabel]

I was actually considering doing LOTR since I’m kind of a Middle Earth nerd but who knows… maybe in the future *wink*

[Thunder Boy]

plus everyone go subscribe to his channel so the wingfeather saga can reach more people.

[Thunder Boy]

(Wingfeather forvere)

[Thunder Boy]

how about legolas and florid sword vs aragorn and tauriel

I put and archer and a swordsman vs an archer and a swordsman this is honestly really tough I feel like aragorn is a better swords dude bet legolas is a better archer then tauriel. I feel like if it started out long range aragorn and tauriel would win because aragorn also has a bow but in a close combat I feel like legolas is a better hand to hand fighter and he would stomp tauriel then go team with the florid sword on aragorn.

[Thunder Boy]

hello

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[Thunder Boy]

and b4 anyone freaks out I am the same person I am just checking something out

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[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Can I help you?

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

Thunder Boy, can you help me understand what it is you’re trying to figure out?

[Thunder Boy]

oh! I was figuring out how to get a picture with my acount

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[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

I see! It seems to have worked; well done. 🙂

Can you talk to me about the new name? We had agreed to stick to Thunder Boy and I need to hold you to that, but I would like to understand what’s going on. Let’s talk in our Thunder Boy thread so Friday Night Fights can stay on-topic.

[Madame SidlerKeymaster]

I see your reply about the Florid Sword below, and that you are continuing to use the name Avenging Spider despite the agreement we had. I was hoping to have a conversation with you about this, but since you have chosen not to respond I will have to start changing your post names again. If you want to talk about this further, please come to the Thunder Boy thread.

[Heidi]

Legolas and Florid Sword would win because 1, both are awesome and Legolas took down one of those huge elephant things. I want to call them Hephelumps, but those are winne the pooh. and 2, because Tauriel was never in the books and therefore would go poof in her non-existence, leaving Aragorn outnumbered too be stomped by the people who did exist in books (legolas was technically not in the hobbit as they claimed but as he was in the other books he would not poof away)

[Thunder Boy]

lets hold up here i’m talking about the movie versions of the characters other than florid sword because that is just a way better way of judging people in the book you really can’t get a grasp for what level they are on and two coolness is not a factor in deciding who would win. Plus those huge elephant things I have a feeling tauriel could do that to she seems to be pretty much on par with legolas on archery but not swordsmanship. And I don’t know if you’ve seen the hobbit movies she shot an arrow out of the air……… so if anything she is a better archer than legolas plus aragorn has a bow so I concur with my previous statement long range team aragorn short range team legolas.

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[Jesse Gabel]

You need to remember that th Florid Sword is just as cunning as he is Florid. While Legolas has the ranged advantage, Florid Sword has the stealth advantage, and just as much skill with a blade as Legolas has with a bow. In the second book he fights a horde of fangs with one arm resting on his hip.

Also, not to get too technical, but the crazy stunts Legolas does in the movies never happen in the books. Tolkien doesn’t actually put alot of detail into Legolas’s combat if I remember correctly. So, it’s kind of unfair to put movie Legolas against book Florid Sword.

[Thunder Boy]

the fight is between legolas and florid sword vs aragorn and tauriel and I would say again that aragorn is the better swordsman then florid sword because he took on five nazgul at once that stunt alone puts him very high.

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[Jesse Gabel]

You guys are forgetting that the Florid Sword is a ranged righter as well. He does use a bow in the second book.

[Thunder Boy]

true but he used one arrow to shoot a fang so While he has a bow he doesn’t use it that often like aragorn does.

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[Heidi]

How about Oskar N Reteep vs Merry and Pippin?

[Thunder Boy]

merry and pippin

[Thunder Boy]

if they didn’t just decide to go to a bar and have a drinking contest

[Heidi]

that does sound like something they would do, lol

[Heidi]

But possibly Oscar, cause of that whole thing he pulled in Dugtown (I think that’s where it was, it been a while since I read them) where he was spinning around with the swords and all the fangs were like we go away now. He could do that with Merry and Pippin and they decided to go eat some Bacon and Tomatoes which Frodo would then throw around cause they used a fire and fires are very dangerous.

[Heidi]

But in a drinking contest Merry and Pippin would win cause they have two people.

[Hannah]

In a drinking contest- Merry and Pippin are very very small. They probably couldn’t hold their drink as well as a large person like Oskar could. In an actual fight- Oskar might could use his spinning-sword-flailing trick, unless Merry and Pippin were too short, and the sword went right over their tiny heads.

[Hannah]

But the Hobbits are also very nimble, so they could probably best Oskar. Unless Oskar squashed them…

[Thunder Boy]

merry and pippin also got some sword training from boromir in that little clip from the fellowship so I think they would probably win.

[Thunder Boy]

I am putting together the top four fighters in the wingfeather saga vs the top four in Lord of the Rings.
Aragorn(team captain)smaug(team brute)legolas(archer)Witch King of Angmar(wildcard)
vs
florid sword(team cap)yurgen w/wings(team brute)rudric(archer)artham with wings (wildcard)

I am team lotr

[Artham]

How about Andrew Peterson with a gun that shoots marshmallows vs S.D.Smith with five banana grenades?

[Ian G.]

Hmm, that’s a tough one. How do you determine a winner? If it’s based off of who can hit the other first or most, it would probably depend on the range of AP’s marshmallow shooter and how far Sam can throw a banana.

My verdict: uncertain

[Hannah]

Hm… Marshmallows are sticky, and leave sugary residue, but are relatively tiny and unlikely to cause serious damage. A Banana Grenade, however, is slimy, and would leave mushy gunk on everything nearby once it explodes. I would be most bothered by the exploding banana.

[Artham]

How about Dobro Turtlebane vs Kalmar (Fanged) in a prairie-like area with a few trees. No weapons only fists.

[Heidi]

Well, I do not know who this Dobro person is, but Kalmar has the advantage of having claws on his fists.

[Ian G.]

Like Heidi, I don’t know who Dobro is, but I imagine fang Kalmar winning. Unless Dobro has abilities I don’t know about.

[Kat Wingfeather]

Dobro is a feechie in The Wilderking trilogy. He’s pretty much like a super strong human who likes to bite people.

[Kat Wingfeather]

He’s a bit like Gollum in Lord of the Rings

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